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07-08-2008 06:09 PM  9 years agoPost 21
derek533

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umdpru, I was just referring to your comment that SUV's days are numbered. I was disagreeing with you if you meant SUV as all compassing (large, mid-size and compact, as well as crossovers).

Also, I agree that it is a vicious cycle in terms of large vehicles on the road. But I don't see that changing for awhile which is why I prefer a larger vehicle in terms of safety. I'll deal with the roll over risk anyday vs. getting crunched by a large vehicle while I'm riding in a sardine can.

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07-08-2008 06:32 PM  9 years agoPost 22
bbeverlie

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Maybe it me but I don't think Ford get's it, This is thing is just plain
ugly like most Ford products! But you have to give them some credit for
putting it on the market with the current fuel cost, I'm quite sure they
put this together well prior to the gas spike and are now commited to it's production! But it will fail due to fuel cost's and a market that will not accept a $38K gas guzzling Ford product!

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07-08-2008 06:48 PM  9 years agoPost 23
fla heli boy

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get this one

I have a female friend that lives on the north end of Fort Myers and works in Fort Myers Beach. Quite a lengthy trip in BAD traffic (especially in the winter). She drives a LARGE Ram diesel, as she has a small farm with horses. Her fuel bill is 400 bucks a WEEK to go to and from. 16 bills a month on diesel!!! I can't get her to grasp that repairing the air on her older (though still quite nice) VW would pay for the repairs in two weeks. I guess she just feels safer in a big truck, plus I think she kinda likes b**tching about her fuel bills. I'm just thankful I got a new job with a company truck and fuel card - saves me over one hundred a week.
But then again, I used to have 6-7 large nitros and a couple 30 & 35% planks. Don't know how I did it. Back when fuel was a little over a buck a gallon - Imagine that....

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07-08-2008 06:49 PM  9 years agoPost 24
R Hudson

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Is Ford heading in the right direction?

No.

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07-08-2008 07:16 PM  9 years agoPost 25
Timp.dk

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Okay look at this Volvo is working on, i am waiting for this on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJwQ18I0vgY and YES the engien is in the wheels that's the only way to go.

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07-08-2008 07:25 PM  9 years agoPost 26
jetfixrguy

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I just bought a motorcycle and am putting the Ram quad cab up for a while, at least when the weather is nice.

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07-08-2008 07:35 PM  9 years agoPost 27
whirlyspud

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I like bikes and all, but I'd still rather pay 10 a gallon than be a hood ornamant.

Mike

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07-08-2008 07:35 PM  9 years agoPost 28
heliman53

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Not only doe's it not get good milage it's ugly as well.

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07-08-2008 07:42 PM  9 years agoPost 29
SSN Pru

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I was disagreeing with you if you meant SUV as all compassing (large, mid-size and compact, as well as crossovers).
I could have been a bit clearer with my comment.

I mean that the numbers and high sales volumes they enjoy now are numbered. They will always have their niche market just like most any car. The soccer moms are likely going to be driving something more economical now...

I was contemplating an SUV for my family once my wifes car dies but now I don't know what I will be doing. I refuse to buy something that gets under 30mpg from now on...

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07-08-2008 10:59 PM  9 years agoPost 30
TwistedRotor

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I drive a honda and it is definitely not "all that". The only reason I drive it is because it gets fantastic gas mileage. Its slow, covered in dents, ride is the worst of any car Iv driven, exhaust is already starting to rust away, and my interior panels wont stay on. You can bad mouth Ford all you want about quality but compare my Honda civic to a Volvo S40 and its easy to see which has better quality.
That's like comparing a Lotus and a go-cart. You have to compare it to something like a Pinto, Escort, or a Tempo. Heck even some of the other manufactures crap: Cavalier, Sunfire, Beretta, etc. All termed "throw away" cars. You look at the quality of one of those then a Honda or Toyota and people will quickly see why the foreign market is doing so well and will continue to do so.
With an example family of 5 consisting of two adults, a five year old, a two year old, and a newborn, where are you going to put them in a Camry.
My parents did it with a Buick Skylark. Worked just fine. And besides if our kids have all this room they'll never have memories like "he's touching me", "she's over the line", etc. Those phrases are the ones I'll always remember from family trips but not usually where we went.

But my proof is in the driveway:
'90 CRX 201,000 miles and running strong
'86 Camry 273,000 miles and running strong
'96 Sunfire (wifes) 113,000 miles, dead in the garage (blown engine after a rebuild on the tranny 1 year earlier, what a piece of crap)
'07 Mazda (wifes) 15,000 miles, we'll see

I won't buy another American car. If I had to do it all over again I would've bought my wife a Civic instead of the Mazda. That Mazda gets 25mpg around town and 31 highway. My 18 year old CRX gets way better than that, so does my sisters new Civic.

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07-09-2008 02:15 AM  9 years agoPost 31
helimatt

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My parents did it with a Buick Skylark. Worked just fine.
Yes, but before everyone under 18 had to be in a booster or car seat. Those things take up a lot of room.

When we got a bit too crowded for the '88 Toyota Corolla wagon (great car BTW), we looked at various wagons, and in the end the mini van was the best bet for trips and camping and being able to bring someone else with us too. Research pointed to the Toyota Previa as best bet for a very used van, and yes, it was great right through 240k miles when we sold it because I won a newer one on ebay (accidentally ), so that's our family ride now. It has 220k on it today, AWD, going strong no problems at all, though it needs some shocks/struts I think.

Minivans are really a great invention, roomy, stable, and get reasonable mileage. For us, being "green" means keeping old cars out of the landfill by keeping them on the road, also not the expenditure of resources to manufacture a new car for us.

One day I'll probably buy an American make, simply because if any survive, it'll be because they got their quality, service, design, and performance where they should be.

Never, ever, ever, ever give up.

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07-09-2008 03:15 AM  9 years agoPost 32
tnavressdog

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I was in the market for a vehicle in January and was deciding between a small SUV and a Honda Civic... I ended up getting the Civic and am so glad I did! Currently my drive is 90% city and 10% highway and I'm getting 30 mpg. With the current gas prices, I would even consider a hybrid now if I was in the market. I rented a Prius for a week trip but the acceleration was a bit slow for my taste. Merging onto the freeway, I had my foot to the floor and it still didn't accelerate as fast as I would have preferred. I wonder how the Civic hybrid is. I can fit all my helis and equipment in the trunk so no cargo space problems here.

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07-09-2008 03:18 AM  9 years agoPost 33
Texas1

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1996 Jeep Cherokee Country - 260,000 have only changes the plug wires, spark plugs,oil and belts since buying new. Still going strong!

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07-09-2008 03:38 AM  9 years agoPost 34
dick smith

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Our main racing catorgory, the V8 supercars series, has been a HOLDEN(GM)V FORD rivalry for the last 40 odd years now, with just those two manufacturers. Just this week ,Ford has announced its pulling the plug on sponsoring and supplying all Ford teams except for two....

Like topher eluded to, could this be the beginning of the end.I hope not ,,the FORD/HOLDEN rivallry is one of the biggest in Australia. It wood be sad to see the demise of either one of these makers...........

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07-09-2008 05:17 AM  9 years agoPost 35
Inspector Fuzz

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EDITED "Football, meat pies, kangaroos and holden cars."!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Ic3RqPIJo

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07-09-2008 01:54 PM  9 years agoPost 36
Topher

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That's like comparing a Lotus and a go-cart.
Ok, compare it to a Cobalt. The civic costs more but the ride and handling of the cobalt beats the hell out of any Honda. You wont be replacing mufflers after 60k either.

will wash your heli for a quarter

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07-09-2008 02:51 PM  9 years agoPost 37
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I've had 7 Fords over the past 20 years. Only one of them was a POS. It was a 1986 1/2 Mustang LX with a 3.8 V6. That car was a maintenance nightmare. The rest of them have been fine automobiles.

Are they headed the right direction? Only time will tell.

Diejenigen, die nicht lernen aus den Fehlern der Vergangenheit bestimmt sind, zu wiederholen.

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07-09-2008 03:47 PM  9 years agoPost 38
bbeverlie

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I've had 4 over 16 years, Pinto need I same more, 85 T-bird 302V8 the
motor never ran well, Always at the dealer! 88 Licoln Mark7 This car
had so many electrical problems I don't have enough room in this thread
to list it all, Merc Carpi this was an ok car! But parts were hard
to come by and it wasn't a US made car! Ford never again will one
see my garage! It's the old fool me once fool me twice bit...Yes
It fooled me 4 times

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07-09-2008 03:52 PM  9 years agoPost 39
fla heli boy

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the worst

thing was....they are much harder to work on than GM products. Now I know nobody works on their own cars anymore, but back in the day when we all did, I cursed both Ford products I owned whenever I had to touch them. A new GT might change my mind, but now that the new Challenger is out and the Camaro is coming, all bets are off.

Oh, and touche' on the Pinto. That was my parents punishment for wrecking my first car - a sweet Dodge Dart 360. Made me buy a Pinto that had a top speed of 45-50 on a good day.

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07-09-2008 04:44 PM  9 years agoPost 40
SSN Pru

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Now I know nobody works on their own cars anymore, but back in the day when we all did, I cursed both Ford products I owned whenever I had to touch them.
I had to change a tranny on my fathers F-150 and my Explorer in the same summer. They were both big time pains in the arse!! Well, compared to doing my father's '86 GMC 2500HD's tranny.

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