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07-08-2008 01:56 PM  9 years agoPost 1
mrlove

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i have to buy one HD camcorder for AP.
Now i know to avoid AVCHD format and Harddisk recorder

From the post seemms to be good only sony hc5 (not canon hv20-30)

Sony hc7 is not good for AP is'nt it? and sony hc9 is very very similar to hc7

Please let me know certified camcorder used for AP work

Excuse me for my bad english
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07-08-2008 02:24 PM  9 years agoPost 2
HeliCamSolutions

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Actually I like the HC7 or HC9 the best for aerial videos because they use optical stabilization for the Sony steady shot. The HC1,3 and 5 all use electronic stabilization for the steady shot.

Hope that helps...

Jody

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07-08-2008 02:34 PM  9 years agoPost 3
ministock22

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Why do you say avoid AVCHD format?

Denny

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07-08-2008 02:44 PM  9 years agoPost 4
mrlove

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AVCHD is a strange format and is very difficult to elaborate in post production.The files is also very very large.

i prefer HDV format (1440x1080)
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07-08-2008 02:45 PM  9 years agoPost 5
trackhead

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AVCHD is just difficult to work with. Most NLE's won't edit it smoothly, making you convert it from AVCHD to a format you can work with. The so called time savings of AVCHD are lost in the conversion. Not to mention the ugly motion signature of some AVCHD codecs. Apparently the higher data rate AVCHD cameras coming out are improving on that.

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07-08-2008 02:46 PM  9 years agoPost 6
Badllarma

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Maybe because AVCHD format is the new kid on the block and not all editing applications will use it at present, plus there are questions over it's quality compared to other formats.

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07-08-2008 03:15 PM  9 years agoPost 7
meflyjeep

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Time will tell ... it is the new kid on the block ...

meflyjeep

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07-08-2008 03:49 PM  9 years agoPost 8
ministock22

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Well crap, this would have been nice to know before I bought my Sony SR12 since it is in AVCHD format So what camera should I get to do video then, the Sony HC 9? Or should I wait and hang on to the SR12 and see what happens? I am so confused, of course thats not very hard for me.

Denny

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07-08-2008 03:56 PM  9 years agoPost 9
mrlove

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are you confused denny?
so do i !!!

i would like to see an sony HC9 Aereal footage

I dont remember the nick but someone say that hc9 is unusable..i hope is not right

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07-08-2008 04:07 PM  9 years agoPost 10
trackhead

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Jeff uses a HC9 with obvious great success.

Ministock, they've greatly improved the AVCHD format. I'd hang on to your cam and give it a go. Sony Vegas will edit AVCHD from Sony cameras. This might save you some headache with other editing software conversions.

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07-08-2008 04:30 PM  9 years agoPost 11
ministock22

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Ok thanks, well that makes me feel better, thanks Derek. What camcorder do you use Derek that you have such great success with?

Does anybody else have an opinion on the Sony HC-9, I am considering picking one of these up as well. My wife needs a new camcorder and I could just let her use the SR12 for now I'll re-wrap it up and give it to her for her birthday, then strap it back on my heli a month later J/K

Thanks
Denny

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07-08-2008 04:41 PM  9 years agoPost 12
d-bledsoe

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My opinion with aerial video is get the best quality you can at the cheapest price as its not a matter of if you crash but when you crash. Derek and i are both using HC5's i dont want to speak for him but i think he is going to use a larger cam in the future for some things?

Why the HC5? well it produces the best quality video that i need for the cheapest price. at 500$ its not going to kill me if i kill the camera. I noticed no difference in quality between the HC5 HC7 and HC9 for air use. I did notice a slight difference in ground use as there are more settings i can and do use when shooting from the ground.

MY only problem with the HC5 is it shoots an interlaced source which isn't ideal for what we are using the cameras for as interlaced sources get quite fuzzy during moving shots. My next HD camera will be a 720p model.

Derek Bledsoe

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07-08-2008 08:03 PM  9 years agoPost 13
TrexRookie

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HC7/HC9

Does the rolling shutter distortion play a big role in image quality with these cameras?

Watch at YouTube

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07-08-2008 08:38 PM  9 years agoPost 14
trackhead

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Rolling shutter is an issue with fast panning, or with subjects moving fast across the frame.

You'll find you get the most pleasing results with HDV (whether it's CMOS or 3 Chip), if you stick mostly with forward flight (birds eye).

As Derek stated, I believe in cheap cameras to some extent. They allow you to try things you might not otherwise do. But you also have to know your clients need and be able to fly a camera that they need.

I will be flying a Sony EX1 for a client, but he wants the ability to shoot 720p at 60fps for motorcycle slowmo. For him, and his budget, the EX1 is viable and needed. But for many, 1080i is fine.

My opinion is, if you're flying YOUR expensive camera, you better be billing a day rate that atleast self insures it every day you fly.

Just my opinion.

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