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07-08-2008 02:57 AM  9 years agoPost 21
cjteach

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07-08-2008 03:03 AM  9 years agoPost 22
helo_chris

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I agree with brovic on this one, if we have any more Arctic ice melt we will be in trouble. Just ask all those people who spent their hard earned money to see it first hand.

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07-08-2008 03:25 AM  9 years agoPost 23
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This december? I'll bet you $100 that there will be no more ice at the north poll in 2020.
LOL... I'm sure I would forget about it by then. But, if it happens... feel free to do a "See! I told you so!" dance!

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07-08-2008 04:31 AM  9 years agoPost 24
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fwiw..

I'm gonna start a carbon credit company...I'll sell credits on E-Bay, as well as hiring Billy Mays as a pitch man...Might as well cash in on the hysteria like AlGore...

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07-08-2008 04:39 AM  9 years agoPost 25
helo_chris

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hiring Billy Mays as a pitch man
HAHAHAHAHA! That is hilarious

"There is a fine line between cutting edge and bleeding edge.."

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07-08-2008 08:57 AM  9 years agoPost 26
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The solution is "Pike Crete".

But then again there will be a run on "sawdust".

At least the 'libs' will then be snorting green to enhance their
version of physics.

"green physics", which is politically correct, will ensure that "science" will be "up" for the highest bidder and will be a means for the stupid to use extortion of reality to "advance" their causes so that ya'll feel safe.

Have no fear, as we, that can actually build something, that search forums in order to do a better job with our tedious construction, that we can level our "swashplates" with more precision than our car mechanics care to "align"(pardon the pun) the front end of our cars....

That we all feel most comfortable with the job that our politicians claim they are doing for us.

Let me ask you this, would YOU allow some jackass politician(with a photoshoot wrench in IT'S hand) within 10' of your heli?

If not, then why on earth is there this "messiah" effect for these gonads?

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07-08-2008 02:38 PM  9 years agoPost 27
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I know I can through as many facts and undeniable evidence at you people until my fingers bleed from typing so much and I will never convince you of climate change being induced by man kind. I know Al Gore is idiot, and many people manipulate "global warming" for their own benefit including the media. But keep in mind that the ice caps, north and south are disappearing, you can not deny it. And those ice caps are literally the heart of the oceans and if they disappear, then that is it for us.

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07-08-2008 03:26 PM  9 years agoPost 28
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But keep in mind that the ice caps, north and south are disappearing, you can not deny it
You couldn't be more wrong. The ice at the South pole is GROWING at a rate that is almost as alarming as the disappearance at the North pole...

If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't ...

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07-08-2008 03:28 PM  9 years agoPost 29
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http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-...tal_ice_extent/

Since there has been no global warming for the last ten years and even some believers are claiming that global warming may take a 'break' for ten or so years, the story on how and why the poles cycle may be more complex than the alarmists would have you believe. It's not as simple as ice melts thus humans bad. The real fact is that we can not separate human influence on climate from the natural noise. We can detect localized impact from land use far better than we can detect globalized impacts due to increasing plant food. "Man Made Global Warming" is just an excuse not to think or at least is a new religion. In the old days we would blame the gods for weather events and sacrifice virgins and burn witches. Now we tax. Both approaches have about the same effect on the weather.

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07-08-2008 03:45 PM  9 years agoPost 30
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I know I can through as many facts and undeniable evidence at you people until my fingers bleed from typing so much and I will never convince you of climate change being induced by man kind.
I can throw more facts and undeniable evidence at you people until my fingers bleed from typing and I will never convince you of climate change being induced by solar activity and volcanic activity long before man began burning fossil fuels.

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07-08-2008 03:58 PM  9 years agoPost 31
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It is a cycle with many factors. The people who live and work on the tundra and ice fields know this to be true. Climate change has been a part of the political discourse for generations. Mine happened to come up with a nitfy green and white flag...

People will believe what is presented in the most palatable form. Maybe a cartoon about dinosaurs. Yeah, Littlefoot!

Maybe they could read the NOAA site.

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07-08-2008 04:07 PM  9 years agoPost 32
kryptik

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People will believe what is presented in the most palatable form.
Or you could just present facts that haven't been blown out of perportion.

Case in point...
But keep in mind that the ice caps, north and south are disappearing, you can not deny it
Now if he had presented facts regarding the north pole ice melting, that is undeniable. We can dispute why all day long, but it is occuring. Is it cause for concern? Possibly...but that is also debatable. The South pole holds the world's largest concentration of both freshwater, and ice, and it is growing at what some also consider to be an alarming rate. Is it possibly just another cycle that runs longer than a couple hundred years? How far back does our accurate data go?

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07-08-2008 04:15 PM  9 years agoPost 33
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^Depends upon how you feel about fossils and geologists, generally, I suppose.

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07-08-2008 04:20 PM  9 years agoPost 34
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The cycles occur of 10's of millions of years, not a few decades. What evidence do you have that the antarctic ice increasing in volume debunks global warming? Some of the data goes back millions of years based on geological records.

http://www.worldclimatereport.com/i...rming-snow-job/

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07-08-2008 04:28 PM  9 years agoPost 35
kryptik

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What evidence do you have that the antarctic ice increasing in volume debunks global warming?
I'm not debunking global warming, I'm debunking your claim that ice is disappearing at the South pole...
The cycles occur of 10's of millions of years
We've only had automobiles for the last hundred or so years. If the cycles run over millions of years, how can we be sure the last hundred have had an impact...?

BTW...Using common sense, what would you say would happen to ice formed by an ice age, after you leave that ice age...?

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07-08-2008 04:58 PM  9 years agoPost 36
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What evidence do you have that the antarctic ice increasing in volume debunks global warming?
Didn't you just use the idea that the ice was melting as proof of AGW? Normally those advocating a theory are asked to prove their theory. AGW Alarmists have managed to turn that upside down and make others disprove their theory.
The cycles occur of 10's of millions of years, not a few decades
Alarmist cycles are much shorter.

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07-08-2008 05:13 PM  9 years agoPost 37
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Lol what happens if you heat up a glass containing water and ice cubes?
Nobody ever seems to mention theres a great big fault line and a bunch of volcanoes under the north pole, they have been erupting magma and super heating the water over the last few years, see Gakkel Ridge etc.

Warning...This hobby is very addictive and may damage your wealth

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07-08-2008 05:29 PM  9 years agoPost 38
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Didn't you just use the idea that the ice was melting as proof of AGW?
Yep, your right. I screwed that up, my mistake. At one time, 15ish years ago I think, there was major melting in the south pole for a consecutive period. Now there is rapid growth within the past year or so which I was unaware of. My fault for not being up to date. I'll have to update my knowledge a bit on this.

However, there are dieing penguins and wildlife above the south pole due to major climate change, not that anyone really cares about penguins.

Pigs, where did you hear that from? Do you have a link? And the ice melts while the temp of the water remains constant until there is no more ice.

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07-08-2008 06:44 PM  9 years agoPost 39
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The cycles occur of 10's of millions of years, not a few decades.
Please explain the little ice age then. It only lasted a few hundred years. Hmmmm....

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07-08-2008 06:46 PM  9 years agoPost 40
kryptik

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Do you have a link?
Here are a couple...

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/...-the-arctic-ice

http://becausenooneasked.wordpress....global-warming/

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