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HelicopterBeginners Corner › figure 8's, turning away from you
07-07-2008 01:32 PM  9 years agoPost 1
Aaron1100us

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I just realize last week that when doing figure 8's, I've been turning the heli away from me, never towards me. It feels natural for some reason. I know this isn't good and I'm not as comfortable turning the heli towards me during a turn in a figure 8. How many of you find that you do this too? I just started learning rolls last week and rolled away from me. Is there something to this? I think I've even been practicing on the sim that way.

I've only had my caliber 30 for a little over a month now and I'm still nervous flying. Now I'm really going to be nervous, it went too far away, lost orientation and crashed into a corn field. Hoping to have it back together soon. I only have FMS simulator, saving up for phoenix. I think the first thing I'm going to do is practice turns in both directions and I need more nose in hover practice. I can do nose in somewhat with my little honeybee king but I get more nervouse flying the caliber. Flying nose in is much easier than just hovering nose in.

Which is direction easier for you?

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07-07-2008 01:46 PM  9 years agoPost 2
Steff Giguere

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I had the same problem as you, only way out is sim, sim, sim and then real thing...good luck

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07-07-2008 01:54 PM  9 years agoPost 3
tarzan_eb

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Figure 8s

Yes it does seem easier to turn away from you than twardes oneself.I did the same thing always turned away it is safer as heli is going away from you.Don't rush turning twardes yourself but practice it after you fly a few rounds and get used to first days flight then gradualy just start by spinning the tail around with little or no banking it will come to you pretty soon it will be as easy as right turns take it slow or you will crash, oh sorry But crash practice is just part of it hopefully you wont practice that part of very often,Everett

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07-07-2008 02:12 PM  9 years agoPost 4
pcinc

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figure 8's, turning away from you

I was taught this way when started doing forward flight for safety reasons. You are always turning the Heli away from yourself and the pit area. If you get goofed up on the turn if you are going towards yourself, you have the chance to fly either directly over your head (not good!) or over the pit area, also not good! Now I'm practicing on the sim to turn in on the figure 8's and nose in. It's going to take a while but I believe this is the safest way to learn it until comforable with turning towards yourself.

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07-07-2008 02:46 PM  9 years agoPost 5
JRjoe

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Work on that nose in when you get a chance. I'd say to keep doing what your doing and make those turns away from you for now. It's safer that way.

You've got plenty of time to learn those other turns. Keep it up and get the feel for forward flight.


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07-07-2008 02:47 PM  9 years agoPost 6
JRjoe

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Oh, and a get a good sim. It's well worth the money.


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07-07-2008 03:37 PM  9 years agoPost 7
f penfold

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If you look at a figure of 8 you are flying in toward you on each back half of the 8 the next time you do your normal 8s double up each loop so go around each half of the 8 twice before you do the cross over this will help loads when you reverce your 8s

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07-08-2008 01:43 AM  9 years agoPost 8
bigdog714

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Dito!!, it realy helps for nose in flight, as you broaden the turns you will see that you are flying nose in, now just complete the turn, as the heli comes around and the nose is towards you don't level it out, keep the lean into the turn, don't mesh around with the cyclic, just ease the tail around and the heli will continue through the turn, simple, right LOL.

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07-08-2008 03:34 AM  9 years agoPost 9
Aaron1100us

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Thanks for the replies. Going to get everything ordered this week and clean up the rest of my parts and hope to have everything back together in a week or so. If I have enough $$ come payday, I'm going to order Phoenix RC SIM. I've been waiting for a while to get it and I think that will help me a lot better than FMS. And the idea of doubling up the turns on each end of the figure 8 is a good idea. I've kinda slacked on my hovering practice lately and need some more of that too. Taking off and flying figure 8's is easier than hovering in one spot in all directions. But I think if you can hover comfortably in all directions, that helps out flying around too. Its just something that I need to remember to practice. I think I once read something in a magazine once about practicing hovering in all directions when you first go out before you do any flying. Thats probably a good idea.

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who has been flying this way.

Just wondering, how fast do progress? How easy is this for you? I started at the beginning of this year with a Honey Bee King and it took me 4 months to be able to fly it decent outside at the park. Had several crashes. Had my Caliber for a little over a month and can do figure 8's one direction and have done a few rolls (with buddy box). I can land right where I want it to but I keep it tail in. I'd like to be able to land nose in. I also need to remember not to let it go so far away. The guys that I fly with have been flying for a while and are all excellent pilots. I can't wait to be able to fly like they do. More stick time.

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07-09-2008 12:58 AM  9 years agoPost 10
racin06

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Indianapolis, Indiana

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I started out learning the figure 8s in which I turned away from me. After I mastered those, I began to work on the figure 8s in which I turned towards myself, which were much more difficult. However, after lots of stick time and many hours on the simulator, turning towards me became just another maneuver that became automatic without having to think about it.

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