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05-15-2008 08:36 PM  9 years agoPost 1
kookboy

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/15/sa...iage/index.html

4 to 3 for overturning. jezoos.

... But honey it was only $$$

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05-15-2008 08:38 PM  9 years agoPost 2
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This is the CA supreme court, doesn't hold much weight. Any liberal (flaming) cause is just for them.

keepin' it real

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05-15-2008 09:07 PM  9 years agoPost 3
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It holds hold weight. However, many of the CA SC rulings are overturned.

Still, why does it matter to most people? I mean if you are religious, then you believe God will punish them. If you are not, then what possible harm would it do you?

I am not gay, I don't go out of my way to support gay rights...But I don't go out of my way to prevent those rights either.

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05-15-2008 09:14 PM  9 years agoPost 4
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and I agree Ron, but...

what does it say when you get judicial activism overriding the will of the people??? That bill was voted on and APPROVED by the citizens of the "Great State of California". I guess your vote really doesn't mean squat afterall. Just like the rest of us.

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05-15-2008 09:17 PM  9 years agoPost 5
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See, this crap wants me to support McCain even more now.

We basically screwed.

If you vote Republican, you send more soldiers to their death in Iraq.

But if you vote Democrat, you get all the gays in power to pass all these outrages laws.

Where's the hope of America?

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05-15-2008 09:21 PM  9 years agoPost 6
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I am with RonHill -

Who really gives a


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05-15-2008 09:24 PM  9 years agoPost 7
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I think it's great..all the Homos will be moving to Califagia.

It's OK....It's not your fault !!!

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05-15-2008 09:28 PM  9 years agoPost 8
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what does it say when you get judicial activism overriding the will of the people??? That bill was voted on and APPROVED by the citizens of the "Great State of California".
Great question. I agree that "judicial activism" is wrong. But this will be taken to the US SC and, like many CA SC rulings, might get overturned.

BUT, the Bill of Rights trumps a State vote. Can you find where in the Constitution that it is OK to deny gays the same rights as hetero couples?

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05-15-2008 09:43 PM  9 years agoPost 9
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BUT, the Bill of Rights trumps a State vote. Can you find where in the Constitution that it is OK to deny gays the same rights as hetero couples?
No, I probably couldn't, but I would suggest that same sex marriages were not even on "the map", when the constitution was written. I would agree about caring less less one way or another. But I imagine that there is an economic aspect to the question as well.

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05-15-2008 09:47 PM  9 years agoPost 10
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But if you vote Democrat, you get all the gays in power to pass all these outrages laws.
LOL. Well I guess that explains Mexiforina.

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05-15-2008 09:48 PM  9 years agoPost 11
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^^^^^

What he just said!! Perfect. I don't care one way or the other, but where I can see the gay point of view is to have equal protection of joint assets, etc. if they've been in a long term relationship. Some real horror stories there. I can see why it's so important to them and it makes no diff. to me. I just hate seeing a vote by the people being overridden by 4 numbskulls in robes.
Remember - the whole original purpose of the FEDERAL government was to provide protection for the states. Their role in citizens lives was SUPPOSED to be at a minimum. Now it's WAY just the opposite and it's getting worse everyday.

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05-15-2008 09:53 PM  9 years agoPost 12
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No, I probably couldn't, but I would suggest that same sex marriages were not even on "the map", when the constitution was written.
Neither was TV, Radio, or the Internet. The real beauty of the Constitution is they left it vague enough to keep true to the principals and to not become dated IMO.

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05-15-2008 09:55 PM  9 years agoPost 13
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LOL. Well I guess that explains Mexiforina.
Mexifornia?

Not even Mexico passes these liberal laws man.

Mexico is way more conservative than the US.

Even abortion is illegal in Mexico unlike Liberal USA!!!

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05-15-2008 10:27 PM  9 years agoPost 14
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Neither was TV, Radio, or the Internet
These are things that were not yet invented. Homosexuality has been around for a long time. But in our culture I would say that the idea of an open same sex marriage is a relatively new concept. Two hundred and fifty years ago, I think it is fairly safe to say that it would have been considered an abomination. I do however agree with you in principal, plus they allow the constitution to be amended. Which is what I just heard on the news that the State of California is considering, to trump the supreme courts trumping of the state voters.

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05-15-2008 10:55 PM  9 years agoPost 15
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yeah but,

hasn't there been a few other states that tried to amend their state constitution and the Feds overruled them too??? If memory serves me correct.
Again, we're getting away from the way this country was made. The fed's are NOT supposed to get involved in State issues, unless it involves National security interests. We are a REPUBLIC, not a Democracy - there is a difference.
The feds need to stand back from this kind of thing and let individual states hash it out. Just MO.

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05-15-2008 11:01 PM  9 years agoPost 16
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Wow! An intelligent debate without the usual suspects throwing insults.

I'm sure it won't last long though.

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05-15-2008 11:07 PM  9 years agoPost 17
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Last time I remember the FEDS overturning anything in California was when Californian voters passed Pro 187 which denied Emergency Medical Services to Illegal-Immigrants.

The Federal government ruled this as inhumane, and over-ruled it, thank God.

But, I don't think they will do the same with gay-marriage though. Nobody is dying here. Maybe if they all get married, this can help keep AIDS from spreading!!!!!!

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05-15-2008 11:33 PM  9 years agoPost 18
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Vic, say it aint so!!!!

You approved of them overturning that??? Hell, an illegal can go and get free health care, have babies, etc., all day long on our dime. But god forbid I have to go in without insurance (which right now I am without) and watch and see how I am treated. Surprised you went that way on this one. You sounded like a righty in your other posts.
No offense to you, just observing, everybody has a right to their opinion buddy....

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05-15-2008 11:38 PM  9 years agoPost 19
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I'm a moderate on issues. Neither extreme right, nor left. Just wish there was a strong political party that was moderate also.

u can call me a Conservative Democrat, or liberal Republican.

I'm for banning on all homo-marriages, but also endorse Universal Healthcare. Take that to the voting booth.

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05-15-2008 11:56 PM  9 years agoPost 20
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Well, we should look at it this way, its not like we can say "That's it, they have ruined California!"

I give up on Loctite, nothing lasts long enough to vibrate loose anymore.

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