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05-13-2008 07:34 PM  9 years agoPost 1
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05-13-2008 07:40 PM  9 years agoPost 2
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Not for nothing the oil that comes out of Alaska is sent to Japan, and none of it goes into our supply. Tom

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05-13-2008 07:41 PM  9 years agoPost 3
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Republican or Democrat, I would second guess any Idea that comes out of the current administration. Have they done anything right? Tom

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05-13-2008 07:52 PM  9 years agoPost 4
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Not for nothing the oil that comes out of Alaska is sent to Japan, and none of it goes into our supply.
yeah, as I understand it, we can't refine the crude out of Alaska so drilling in the Arctic Wildlife Refuge won't work out for us, only other countries. That is, unless we build the refining capacity to do it.

I personally think we should not export ANY of our oil we obviously need it much more here anyways...
Republican or Democrat, I would second guess any Idea that comes out of the current administration. Have they done anything right? Tom
Yeah, I agree. Many Americans are too ignorant of current events to realize that the President actually plays a very small role in what occurs here. It's the DEMOCRATIC controlled Congress that takes care of laws and legislation. The President merely agrees with it and signs the legislation into law or disagrees with it and Veto's it...

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05-14-2008 01:41 AM  9 years agoPost 5
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Yeah, your right the Dems control the congress and that has been since last November or is it January when they took control. What is your excuse for the four years before that?

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05-14-2008 03:29 AM  9 years agoPost 6
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Yeah, your right the Dems control the congress and that has been since last November or is it January when they took control. What is your excuse for the four years before that?
The four years before that prices didnt double. Half of the gas price increases we have seen since W took office have taken place since 2006 when the Dems gained control of Congress. So whats your excuse?
Not for nothing the oil that comes out of Alaska is sent to Japan, and none of it goes into our supply. Tom
Gas prices are affected directly by world supply and demand, not what gets drilled where and sent to whom. If there is that much oil to be drilled on ANWAR then yes it would help us because it would be less oil the Japanese are buying from other countries. Thus easing the supply a bit and lowering prices. Some people should educate themselves before shooting off at the mouth.

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05-14-2008 04:25 AM  9 years agoPost 7
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Don't forget it isn't always about the law of supply and demand. Our current oil companies have no excuse for not building refineries or exploring oil off shore. There are no excuses for oil companies blaming on volume shortage when we actually consume less volume. The democrats and republicans share the same blame for the mess we are in. We have the ability to be self sufficient but people in power prefer that we go broke to maintain their control over economics for their benefit only. I hate to say it but there are people in control that are clueless and are bent on hell towards self-destruction. I am laughing on how things are changing so rapidly and very destructive to our economy but the blame is squarely on our shoulders. I am going to say it once again both parties share the blame as well as rich people that are in control of the energy section. It is GREED that drives these people.

We have some folks that are able to switch their electricity to wind mills and solar panels only to get chewed out by city officials or county officials for sight blemish. We have the ability to move away from fossil fuels but we are going to run those tanks dry. The only way something will be done is when majority of people experience record prices hardships or until farmers suffer fuel shortages. We have a history on this planet to run/consume things until there is a complete structure collapse before we move on to something else.

It is also kind of funny how the human race behaves like a Virus. The virus consumes everything until it can't consume anymore until it moves on to something else.

Another big issue is that there are people starting to pull back on spending thus money becomes in the hands of the few only to ensure a total economic collapse. We need to find other sources of energy or solve the energy problem with oil now until we come close to complete oil consumption.

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05-14-2008 04:54 AM  9 years agoPost 8
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Not sure where you are getting your facts from but oil is subject to the same principles of economics that everything else is. Our consumption since the 70s has gone up by something like 20% and we have lost ~25% of our refiniing capacity. And they are exploring, one of the largest reserves in the western hemisphere was found in the Gulf a few years ago. But news flash, they cant drill in the Gulf because of the enviro-nazis.

Same thing with refineries, I heard someone say in an interview one time that it would take about 12 years to get through all of the environmental and bureaucratic red tape to even start building a new refinery. Do you think it makes good business since to invest millions in something over the next ten years to find out you cant really build it after all?
We have a history on this planet to run/consume things until there is a complete structure collapse before we move on to something else.
Give me one example of that.

And I completely disagree with your assessment with once exception. Politicians are to blame, not because they are too greedy or too power hungry. But because they are no different than a good portion of the idiots in this country who have no business making decisions that affect something that they have such an inherent lack of understanding of. And that whole premise that we are running out of oil in 10 years is bu!!$H!t. Not that i dont think we shouldnt get away from it but we will when there is an economically viable, commercially sustainable solution. Otherwise you are replacing one problem with another. Like ethanol.

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05-14-2008 05:14 AM  9 years agoPost 9
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We have a history on this planet to run/consume things until there is a complete structure collapse before we move on to something else
Check out Africa/South America and how they harvest their trees. Trees are considered natural resources and can be consumed. Keep in mind this is just a general statement.
enviro-nazis
I completely agree, at the same time we need to be responsible and replace what we consume or work towards finding replacements of what is left of what we consume.
Refineries situation
I agree that our/world oil consumption has gone up and less refineries exist in the USA. It is a known fact that we closed down many refineries.

My whole point.....our government failed the American people and to blame democrats or republicans isn't going to solve our problems.

Do you know that oil companies buy patents to protect their interests so we will continue to use oil for our energy needs. Too many people hands are in this oil mess and continue to keep it that way.

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05-14-2008 05:22 AM  9 years agoPost 10
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05-14-2008 05:38 AM  9 years agoPost 11
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fwiw..

Here's a thought...Environmentalists are "useful idiots" to the oil companies...Preventing construction of new refineries keeps them prices right up thar, don't it?

Anarchy sounds better and better.

B.C.

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05-14-2008 06:04 AM  9 years agoPost 12
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Thanks for sharing that. That really helps the insight of what is going on. So in other words we can lay the blame on the government for these problems.

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