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05-14-2008 03:15 AM  9 years agoPost 61
ShellDude

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that works too, Jon!

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05-14-2008 06:14 AM  9 years agoPost 62
LouInSD

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Ump, you really need to get over your little grudge...(maybe I should let you win a couple of these so you'll calm down lol)

Raygun had very little to do with the wall coming down.

Gorbachev introduced the policies of Glasnost and Perestroika. If it wasn't for him nothing would have changed over there.

I know people who lived in the soviet union. They will tell you that American music and culture had a big impact on them and that made them want to change their system. None of that would have happened if Gorby didnt have an openness policy with America.

So get over your hero worship. Raygun was a doddering old fool who was nothing more than a figurehead. He was good at reading cue cards and getting people emotional. As a matter of fact most people said the reason they liked him is because he made them feel good...BFD

By the end of his first term he was losing brain function to the point that his handlers kept him out of the public eye because it was becoming very obvious.

The irony of that whole thing is that raygun cut funding and closed down all the mental hospitals and kicked all the mentally ill out on the street...

then he died of a mental illness himself...

I guess karma is a bitch...

but then we all know republicanism is a mental illness

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05-14-2008 06:18 AM  9 years agoPost 63
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fwiw..

"Good at reading cue cards and getting people emotional"...Gosh, that sounds like...Obama!!!

B.C.

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05-14-2008 06:19 AM  9 years agoPost 64
RonHill

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Lou

You have failed time after time to back this statement up...

But, I'll ask again...You have any proof of this?:
By the end of his first term he was losing brain function to the point that his handlers kept him out of the public eye because it was becoming very obvious.

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05-14-2008 06:28 AM  9 years agoPost 65
LouInSD

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drdumb, Obama writes his own speeches...he doesn't have some post-menopausal battle-ax write them for him as raygun did...

and Obama's speeches are obviously inspiring, people are getting behind him...which is driving you racists crazy...

BTW, where were you last night at about midnight? Did you pay a little visit to Obamas headquarters?

...I know how you like to call minorities racists while misspelling it at the same time...LOL

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05-14-2008 06:42 AM  9 years agoPost 66
RonHill

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Lou

drdumb, Obama writes his own speeches...he doesn't have some post-menopausal battle-ax write them for him as raygun did...
Well then who are you going to blame for the 60 States? Yes, I said 60...

He said he has been to 57 states with one left, but was not able to go to AK or HI.

57 + 1 + AK + HI = 60
and Obama's speeches are obviously inspiring, people are getting behind him...which is driving you racists crazy...
Yes, he is a good speaker....But why does anyone that disagrees with him have to be a racist?

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05-14-2008 07:07 AM  9 years agoPost 67
LouInSD

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You have failed time after time to back this statement up...

But, I'll ask again...You have any proof of this?:
Ron, I think you know better than to challenge a political junkie like me on something like this...

BTW, thanks for insinuating that I am dodging the question since this is the first time you've ever asked it...

It was pretty common knowledge for people in the know that he was losing his marbles towards the end of his first term...

During the Iran-Contra hearings he became the first president to testify 130 times "I don't remember"

Either you believe he was a lying criminal or you believe that he sincerely didn't remember...

Either way you lose...

Watch at YouTube

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05-14-2008 07:10 AM  9 years agoPost 68
LouInSD

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But why does anyone that disagrees with him have to be a racist?
There you go again...I never said that...I was merely pointing out that racists don't like him...

BTW, he cleared that 60 states thing up...he was tired...shocker eh?

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05-14-2008 07:19 AM  9 years agoPost 69
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05-14-2008 07:22 AM  9 years agoPost 70
RonHill

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Lou

I aksed for proof...You have provided nothing of the sort.
It was pretty common knowledge for people in the know that he was losing his marbles towards the end of his first term...
That is not proof...It is you not providing proof.
During the Iran-Contra hearings he became the first president to testify 130 times "I don't remember"
I guess that makes Clinton an idiot for not knowing the definition of "is" then right?

You have again failed to provide proof....I really think this has been asked before...If not then I appologize. But, please provide it now.
There you go again...I never said that...I was merely pointing out that racists don't like him...
You said, "Obama's speeches are obviously inspiring, people are getting behind him...which is driving you racists crazy..."

You put YOU in there. If you had left that out it would have been as you said. At least ADMIT when you attepmt to insult people.
BTW, he cleared that 60 states thing up...he was tired...shocker eh?
You will let that slide but attack Bush for any slip ups? That has been my whole point.

But anyway, how tired do you have to be to not know there are 50 States?

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05-14-2008 07:38 AM  9 years agoPost 71
LouInSD

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Ron you could live the rest of your life out just arguing about minutiae..

it is very obvious you're focusing on this so as to avoid all the other points I bring up about him...

Former CBS White House Press Corps Lesley Stahl recalls in her book Reporting Live, an "unsettling" interview with the president where "a vacant Reagan barely seemed to realize anyone else was in the room", and that before he "reemerged into alertness" she recalls that "I had come that close to reporting that Reagan was senile."[174] Reagan would also encounter occasional difficulty recalling names and titles, notably while meeting with Japanese Prime Minister Yasuhiro Nakasone wherein he repeatedly referred to his Vice President as "Prime Minister Bush."[

There were many many people who said the same thing about him. He was constantly saying dumb things in front of the press so he was only allowed to read his cue cards and then rushed off stage and never allowed to answer questions.

I'm sure you remember if you're old enough...

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05-14-2008 07:52 AM  9 years agoPost 72
LouInSD

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Ron,

Obama is on the campaign trail...

this guy is not...

Watch at YouTube

BTW, using the collective term 'YOU' doesn't imply that anyone who doesn't agree with Obama is a racist...it points out racists in particular...

You will do ANYTHING to try to twist my words, wont you...

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05-14-2008 10:03 AM  9 years agoPost 73
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You REALLY need to listen to people from England when they talk about their "Free" health care. It has been brought up to you several times...People from Europe have weighed in on it and tell you how bad it is yet you STILL think it is a great idea.
You might wanna check that out with a slightly wider public than a few UK RRers. My vote won't count of course as I'm a lefty in your eyes, but even if it's not without it's flaws I'd chose it any time over your system. You might wanna compare the UN top ten list of which countries that are considered the best to live in and see how many have are socialistic and have free healthcare. As far as I know, you're not even on that list. It's great for you that you feel you have the best country in the world to live in, it just seems not all agree. As for immigration proving it....well you are not the only western country people want to move to....

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05-14-2008 01:28 PM  9 years agoPost 74
1stPlace

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I'm for that 1st Place. If were gonna pay $4.50 a gallon like over here in LA, might as well get some free healthcare for it no?
Brovic,
There is only 36 cents of profit in a gallon of gas. That is barely enough to sustain the oil companies and gas stations, let alone "free" health care. In the countries where gas taxes pay for their health care, gas is closer to $9.00-$10.00 a gallon. In order to implement "free health care in the U.S.A, federal taxes would have to be increased by over 2.5 trillion dollars a year. There is no such thing as "free" health care.

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05-14-2008 01:58 PM  9 years agoPost 75
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wow, someone finally dug up a picture of lootard.

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05-14-2008 02:07 PM  9 years agoPost 76
scatbass

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Wow, Brovic has you guys by the balls.

Haven't you figured out that he is the single biggest troll on this forum? Look at his apparent positions on topics all over the map, from religion to politics to economics. None of them jive.

He's just a pathetic black troll.



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05-14-2008 02:55 PM  9 years agoPost 77
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05-14-2008 03:27 PM  9 years agoPost 78
RonHill

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Tintin

You might wanna check that out with a slightly wider public than a few UK RRers.
I do. I have several friends in the UK and Europe.
My vote won't count of course as I'm a lefty in your eyes, but even if it's not without it's flaws I'd chose it any time over your system.
Your vote counts...As one vote. I know more people that disagree with your statement than agree with it. And your political leanings do not automatically discount your opinion with me. So please don't think that.
You might wanna compare the UN top ten list of which countries that are considered the best to live in and see how many have are socialistic and have free healthcare
Care to comment how Sweden, Canada, and the UK are all starting to embrace "pay for" plans? In fact, there have been lawsuits in Canada.

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05-14-2008 03:46 PM  9 years agoPost 79
RonHill

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Lou

it is very obvious you're focusing on this so as to avoid all the other points I bring up about him...
No, I am asking you to back up statement you make. You have provided one piece of evidence, good for you. I'll look at it and see if I can find that data repeated somewhere else, or if I can find data to support it.
There were many many people who said the same thing about him.
And people have said close to the same thing about every official since I can remember.

Again, you might be fun to talk to if you could act like an adult and refrain from making insults when you are out of intellectual ammo....Again, I used that first...Look it up.

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05-14-2008 03:48 PM  9 years agoPost 80
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McCain is a traitor and a warmonger!
TRAITOR ???? This man has been through 5 1/2 years of hell and truely apprciates life and freedom. I don't always agree with him but he is honest and a true patriot.
His life as a POW:
He spent 5 1/2 years in horrible conditions in which many died, and risked his life while in prison to help others who were badly injured by the captors. Lets see you spend 5 1/2 years locked up in a cell with a bucket for a toilet (on good days) and food infected with vermin. It was a torture prison and they were under daily threat of death or violent injury while you sit home in your air conditioning and eat fat burgers.

Here is the report of what happened, I personally would have broke down far sooner John McCain.;
In August of 1968, a program of severe torture began on McCain, at the same time as he was suffering from dysentery, and McCain made an anti-American propaganda "confession".[35] He has always felt that his statement was dishonorable, but as he would later write, "I had learned what we all learned over there: Every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine." His injuries left him permanently incapable of raising his arms above his head. He subsequently received two to three beatings per week because of his continued refusal to sign additional statements.[50] Other American POWs were similarly tortured and maltreated in order to extract "confessions" and propaganda statements.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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