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03-08-2008 05:11 PM  10 years agoPost 1
Jaymac26

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I am just about to install my Ap2000i

My Jumperwires that came with the AP2000i do not want to fit into the RX. They seen to be a little big. I have a JR 9303 radio system. They seem like they should fit. Thanks

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03-08-2008 05:39 PM  10 years ago •• Post 2 ••
Chris Bergen

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Is it the 9 Channel 2.4 Rx?

For some reason, they turned over the plug holes in this receiver....

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03-08-2008 05:50 PM  10 years agoPost 3
Jaymac26

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It is a 9003 72 fm Module. My jumper wires did not have the key on them. I shaved the plastic connectors a bit and now they fit. I am new to setting heli's up but have been flying the last couple of years. The AP2000i is my work project today!!

Jason McKay

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03-08-2008 06:07 PM  10 years agoPost 4
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Ok,

Disregard then..)

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03-08-2008 06:08 PM  10 years agoPost 5
Jaymac26

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Have you set up an AP2000i before?

Jason McKay

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03-08-2008 06:10 PM  10 years agoPost 6
Chris Bergen

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Quite a few. If you follow the quickstart, it actually gets you pretty close.

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03-08-2008 06:17 PM  10 years agoPost 7
Jaymac26

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I have been reading it and getting close I think. I have not heard from mark in the last few days. I am new to setup but have been flying for the past few years. Here is the email Mark sent me.

Sure looks like a 120 to me. That would be swashplate type SR-3 in the AP2000i and swashplate type s-1 in your tx, of course. The servo that connects to the front link is going to be designated as Servo1. Servo 2 is on the R/H side and Servo3 on the L/h side.

Is the right hand side facing the heli or behind it. I am not sure if it is port side or not? Thanks for your info.

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03-08-2008 07:16 PM  10 years agoPost 8
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Here's some more info on setting up the 9303 with the AP2000i.
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AP2000i gain (sensitivity) & calibration set up for a JR 9303 transmitter on a Maxi-Joker 2

The gear switch is used to turn the GY401 heading hold function on and off. The AUX2 switch is used in conjunction with the right slider lever (AUX3) to control the AP2000i.

The way it works is as follows:
With the AUX2 switch in the forward or "0" position, the sensitivity of the Spartan is controlled between 30% and 87% by moving the slider through its range.
With the AUX2 switch in the middle or "1" position the range is from "OFF" to 75% depending on the position of the slider.
With the AUX2 switch in the aft or "2" position, the range is from "CAL" to 46% depending on the position of the slider.

To calibrate the unit, move the slider full aft with the AUX2 switch forward. This provides 30% sensitivity. When reaching a stable hover, calibrate the Spartan by moving the Aux2 switch to the aft position for one second. Return it to the forward position to resume 30% sensitivity or alternativly, just move the slider forward with the AUX2 switch still in the aft position. The AUX 2 switch can be used to select the range of sensitivity desired and the slider to fine tune the level. This setup has worked very well.

To set the radio up, do the following:
1. In the "DeviceSEL" menu, map AUX2 to the AUX2 SW and AUX3 to the AUX3 LEV. You will not be able to use a 7 channel receiver with this procedure. More channels are needed to accommodate the remap.

2. In the "TRVL ADJ. menu, set the travel of AUX3 to +50% and -129%

3. In the "PROG.Mix1" menu (see attached picture) AUX2 - AUX3 SW SELECT set the curve with "Point-0" to -100, "Point-3" to +18 and "Point-6" to +71. EXP is OFF.

4. Go to the MONITOR menu and observe how AUX3 moves in conjunction with the AUX2 switch and slider combination. This

will illustrate the results. With the 9303 and AP2000i ON - observe the changes in sensitivity on the AP2000i display as you move the switch and slider combination."

Addendum:
I've seen some comments from folks who wanted to use the AP2000i at 100% sensitivity setting. Although I think the 0 to 87% range is all that is needed, to get 100% sensitvity from the AP2000i on the JR9303, it is only necessary to increase the range of travel of AUX3 from +50% to +65%. To effect this change, do the following:
In the "TRVL ADJ. menu, set the travel of Aux3 to +65% and -129%.
This should give the following sensitivity settings:

With the AUX2 switch in the forward or "0" position, the sensitivity of the Spartan is controlled between 30% and 100% by moving the slider through its range.
With the AUX2 switch in the middle or "1" position the range is from "OFF" to 83% depending on the position of the slider.
With the AUX2 switch in the aft or "2" position, the range is from "CAL" to 46% depending on the position of the slider.
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Hope it is a help to you. This was copied from Keith M. and helped my setup become easier!

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03-08-2008 09:21 PM  10 years agoPost 9
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Sorry I've been unavailable by internet. The ice storm on tue/wed wiped out much of our area's power/internet service. Just got power back at 3pm today but I'm having to use a wireless card for internet service. And, it's not such a good connection.

Sounds like you've got your wire issue solved. I used to have a JR rx on my Trex600 and didn't have any problem with the jumperwires so I'm not sure what is going on with your rx.

If you need any other assistance and I don't get to your posts/emails quickly enough, please feel free to give me a call. #'s on our site.

Mark Webber
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03-08-2008 10:56 PM  10 years agoPost 10
BigguyOz

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Jason, to avoid left/right side confusion, connect the front one, and then connect the others so their relationship to the front one is exactly the same as in the diagram in the instructions (think clockwise/anticlockwise). But as well, it is normal to designate the right side as being the one on the right when looking from the rear of the heli.

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03-09-2008 01:19 AM  10 years agoPost 11
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Sorry, yes...always reference as though you were in the pilots seat.

Though, it really is of little consequence which servo is 2 or 3. Servo #1 is critical in the SR-3 configuration, however.

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03-09-2008 04:50 AM  10 years agoPost 12
Jaymac26

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Thanks for everyone's help.

I did look at the diagram and got it to work. I have all the servos working properly. I used Aux3 for the gain and have it reading (off) on the low and 96% on the high end. I have the swashplate level by eye and have it very close. I will read the manual tonight to make sure the AP2000i is setup. Is there anyother things I should look at? I also wanted to make sure if the AP2000i is reading off, I can fly the heli just like before with no problems..correct? Thanks again.

Jason McKay

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03-09-2008 05:57 AM  10 years agoPost 13
BigguyOz

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Jason, I can thoroughly recommend setting up your AP just like Keith did. In practice it works beautifully, with the flap switch providing 3 ranges, with the right slider offering incremental adjustment within each range. It is very intuitive when using it in flight, and Keith's instructions were easy to follow.

Tony Stott

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03-09-2008 11:50 AM  10 years agoPost 14
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Jason,

As long as everything is performing as expected, you should be ready to fly. With the stabilization reading OFF, you can expect your heli to fly just as it did before.

Prior to your first flight, I'd just suggest following along with the preflight suggestions included with the Quickstart guide.

Mark Webber
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03-09-2008 02:58 PM  10 years agoPost 15
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Hi Jason,
follow a planned test procedure for and evaluate each function to make sure it is working as it should. The AP2000i works great, just do it by a checklist to make sure it is doing what it is supposed to be doing. (same as any other part of the control system you replace!)

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03-09-2008 06:50 PM  10 years agoPost 16
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Today I am taking the heli up for its first flight with the Ap2000i
I am not going to use the Cal function today. I will try and set it up like Keith did. I do agree that the cal function is the way to go with the AUX 2 switch. It has been a few months since I have flown because of winter so I am going to make sure the bird is running properly first. If I do not use the Cal function I will have to trim it with the TX correct? Thanks again for everyone's help.

Jason McKay

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03-09-2008 09:21 PM  10 years agoPost 17
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If I do not use the Cal function I will have to trim it with the TX correct?
Yes. You can minimize how much trim is necessary by tilting your sensor to the left a bit to neutralize the natuaral tilt of the heli to the right. It's easiest to fly/adjust until you get the best results. Then, add a bit of trim for best stabilization.

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03-09-2008 10:46 PM  10 years agoPost 18
Jaymac26

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Thanks Mark and others.
It is nice having people willing to help. It looks good on you and others. It makes it a giving for future heli equipment purchases from you.

Also it is great to have others with all their knowledge help out.

Jason McKay

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03-10-2008 11:23 PM  10 years agoPost 19
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Update with AP2000i
I took the gasser out today for it's first Ap2000i flight.

On spool up the swash plate was very glitchy. There was no gain on and the swash plate was up and down and left and right. It seemed to only happen when the engine was on. I then turned off the sensor to make sure that was not the problem. Same thing was happening. I made sure the wires were all connected right. When I wiggled a few wire I noticed it was doing it again. I am going to look at the manual and see if I missed a setting. I hope someone knows what I am talking about. Thanks.

One thing to add was it also read G99 for I think 99 glitches.

Jason McKay

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03-11-2008 12:20 AM  10 years agoPost 20
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Replied to your PM

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