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03-16-2003 02:22 PM  14 years agoPost 21
Buzzin Brian

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Perhaps an aluminum arrow shaft type of tube is in order to stop all of this crap. Something like the one that is used in the Vigor CS. I have never heard of one of the Vigor CS's tubes failing like this. And it wouldn't hurt my feelings to see this type of design addopted. Anyone out there with a machine shop that could make this work? I am thinking that we could use two of the ends that are used on the mechanics side of the CS, the tube from the CS, and then perhaps the bearing holders from the MA shaft. Hey it might just work, and I know it wouldn't come apart like this. Any thoughts guys????

Build it, fly it, crash it. Repeat as often as needed.

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03-16-2003 02:42 PM  14 years agoPost 22
sluggo

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Hi Brian any idea's will be good. I am sure M.A will get a handle on it soon. I just hate wasting a day because of it Grrrrrrrr. I am hoping that this tube drive with the yellow dot on it has something to do with the tube being tested or something.

I will update as I get some time on it.

Chris

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03-16-2003 05:34 PM  14 years agoPost 23
spincycl

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I have never had a arrow shaft fail just by normal use. The only drive failure I had was because I didn't assemble it right. The Bergen arrow shaft drive system allows you to use universals or not, and best of all, the shafts are $5 each. I now use two support bearings near the centre just for that added security, but one bearing works just fine too.

You can feel the twist of the MA carbon shaft, but the arrow tube has around 1/4 of the twist. You can see for yourself, by just holding the head and turning the tail. Next time you see someone who has a Bergen, check out and see what I mean.

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03-17-2003 12:32 AM  14 years agoPost 24
sluggo

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Well Guys so far so good. I put 4 very hard flights on tube #3 today and all is good. I soon forgot about it and started to let it rip. I will have some pic's later on tonight.

I have also been talking with a M.A rep about the tube failures and they are taking a close look at this problem and will have it fixed for good real soon.

Man that fury is a sweet heli, it is hard to say what it is but the heli seems to fly its self half the time hehehehe. Anyway burned 4 tanks and very very happy again

Chris

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03-17-2003 05:09 AM  14 years agoPost 25
Horacio

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I'm speaking up for kit # 619. I have 6 break in tanks through it and no signs of problems. I didn't notice any "dot" on mine.

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03-20-2003 03:16 PM  14 years agoPost 26
bigdude

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T/T with yellow dot

I just had T/T failure couple last weekend. (it was a very bad crash) And mine T/T has a yellow dot ont it.
MA / MA test pilot should post an aswer on this thread soon. At least, let us know what's going on and What are they doing at this moment to fix this problem.
I have to put my Fury on hold just until i can have a peace of mind on this matter. i usually doing my demos low on deck and i use tail rotor quite a bit on my routine, so when something goes wrong....It will only mean IMPACT.

I have all the parts that is needed to fix it, but as i said bebore I'm not sure will it happend again. Cause, the new T/T that i have doesn't have a yellow dot on it.

So please, someone, please fill us up.

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03-20-2003 03:17 PM  14 years agoPost 27
bigdude

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i forgot to tell u guys, Mine is Fury 60 Expert.

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03-20-2003 04:23 PM  14 years agoPost 28
rappyfly

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u shall consider an alterative fix for now...

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03-21-2003 07:05 PM  14 years agoPost 29
Horacio

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Anyone have any news on this issue? I'm holding off flying until this gets cleared up, it's just not worth the chance of totalling a new machine. It could happen or it couldn't just doesn't work for me. MA- if your listening- WHAT'S THE DEAL????

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03-22-2003 07:21 PM  14 years agoPost 30
RICH

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TT Update

I spoke to MA (Tim S) late last week. They were busy with their move during the week. They are tooling up to make a new TT. The new one will be 0.348" in diameter with a thicker wall while the current one is 0.295" in dia. The drive ends will be new as well. The new TT due to its increase in size will suffice with just one support bearing. I sent them my broken one back and they will be sending me out a new TT when they are made. I was told approx a 30day turnaround due to retooling and the rescent move. I'm very impressed with MA's ongoing commitment to Quality and Customer Service in producing such a fine product.

Rich

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03-22-2003 09:56 PM  14 years agoPost 31
sluggo

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Well I don't think it has anything to do with setup or gyro setup but more with the gluing process.

The tubs that have failed here where do to one of the bearing supports coming loose and riding up to the front of the tube causing the tube to vib and the ned faling.

The tube I had fail was not due to anything other then the ned slipping in the tube. It was a brand new heli (only 4 flights) and hand not been flown hard yet. My gryo gain is only 37% as Jsaon K says to have it so the servo lasts longer.

As for the tubes that have broke in half who knows. Must be some flaw in the making of the carbon tube maybe. It sure is nice to see that Tim is jumping on this so fast. I also herd from M.A that they are looking into some metal shafts as well.

Chris

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03-23-2003 03:13 PM  14 years agoPost 32
bigdude

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My t/t was broken right at the middle of the tube but not the end of it. So, how would you explain that!

Common....guys Gain is setting too high causing the tube to fail...

For us 3D..ers.....The higher the gain means the tail is locking better right? But i think MA is going the right direction by using bigger tube to widthstand the Rigourous Flight...

raptorrecker : "They feel this is only neede for extreme flying. "

Well...i think most of the people who is owning Fury are mostly experince pilot who most of the time fly the hex of their machine though.
So, in my openion, the tube should widthstand no mather what..

Just my .02

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03-23-2003 11:50 PM  14 years agoPost 33
Barbary

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with the clean breaks, adhesive failure, and over-torquing separations we're seeing in extreme tt failures, i'm wondering whether the big block engines are driving the tube with a harmonic vibration that trashes it one way or another. when mine failed from over-torquing, m/a sent me a replacement tube with 2 bearing supports instead of the stock single bearing. why is that, didn't the old tubes on x-cells have 2 bearings? at the speed they're rotating, those tubes are going to flex whenever they the chance. they probably should have 3 bearings on them. oversight, cost abatement, or planned obsolescence?

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