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03-14-2003 04:33 AM  14 years agoPost 1
kabegalphish

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Spokane, Washington

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I just bought everything that I needed for my hawk sport minus the gyro.

I am really anxious to break my engine in and hopefully hover my bird.
My question is....Can I fly without a gryo, by progamming the revo mix?
Or is a gyro a very needed item?
Just wondering.

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03-14-2003 04:36 AM  14 years agoPost 2
voksboy

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I'm not sure but I do think you need a gyro Unless you can handle you tail going absolutely nuts

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03-14-2003 05:13 AM  14 years agoPost 3
mongo

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you can fly without a gyro, that is the way several of us learned.
if you try this, be absolutely certain that you have someone vidiotaping the event for us though. might even want 2 cameras, one on the heli, and one on yer face.

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03-14-2003 06:22 AM  14 years agoPost 4
FinnDave

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Kouvola, Finland

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Sure, anyone can fly without a gyro. But not many can do it for very long or avoid a lengthy repair session after the first attempt

David S., Kouvola, Finland

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03-14-2003 07:47 AM  14 years agoPost 5
Gadgets

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Rate Gyro $100

HH Gyro /servo $200

Crashkit $50

Seeing U kick yourself for trying it .............. U get the picture

Seriously dont try it.

I found a great big difference between Rate and HH, I can only imagine what it is like without a gyro.

Have paitience, it will work out better.





I see plank flyers!!!

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03-14-2003 07:48 AM  14 years agoPost 6
kabegalphish

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Spokane, Washington

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I've just got a FEVER

I know the inportance of a gyro!..I have a JR460T on order.
I jsut want to start this money pit now that I have all of the goods.

I've read bout revo mixing on non-headin hold gyros, but does it do the same without a gyro.

All suggestions and comments are so very welcome, thank you guys &(gal).

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03-14-2003 08:17 AM  14 years agoPost 7
FinnDave

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Kouvola, Finland

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Well, it's your heli and you can try it if you want to, but I hope you like rebuilding and have a few spares stashed away!

David S., Kouvola, Finland

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03-14-2003 08:29 AM  14 years agoPost 8
Gadgets

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No

Revo mixing works with rate gyros.

It adjusts the tail blade pitch to compensate torque changes when "accelerating or decelerating" head speed. You could try this with no gyro, but where do U start?

in a hover the rate gyro with a stock setup will keep the tail safe.

When increasing or decreasing throttle, normally only 5 to 10 % change in tail pitch is required.

Without a gryo, the moment u take off it could start pirrouetting and since U are starting out in helis U will lose it.

Please have patience, the first crash ruins your confidence.

Borrow a gyro if u can





I see plank flyers!!!

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03-14-2003 08:55 AM  14 years agoPost 9
KingHippo

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I really think you need a gryo. If you are short on money, try to get a used cheap gyro like CSM ICG 180. It's like $100 new so you can probably get a used one at about $50.

Don't try without gyro, you'll regret it when you break your blades that cost about the same of a cheap used gyro.

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03-14-2003 08:57 AM  14 years agoPost 10
Jagboy69

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Miami

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Buy a gyro....

Jason /// Sceadu50/9chp WWW.Jagboy69.com

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03-14-2003 09:21 AM  14 years agoPost 11
Jack_R30

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Yes, you can unless you can control fast pirouete left and right .

Just buy a GYRO


Jack

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03-14-2003 12:03 PM  14 years agoPost 12
SteveH

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Texas

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Been There-Done That!

My first attempt to fly a helicopter was without a gyro, because I had lots of airplane experience and not much money, and just new that I could do it.

The next day I went and bought all the necessary parts to repair AND a gyro. But, then maybe you are a lot better than I thought I was!

SteveH

The government cannot give you anything without first taking it from someone else.

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03-14-2003 12:30 PM  14 years agoPost 13
rspiegel

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Austin,TX South Buda

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Just to funny

This is all just to funny. I can just see the heli spinning into the ground. wait for the Gyro and there will be plenty of other crashes for you to watch. Richard

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03-14-2003 12:53 PM  14 years agoPost 14
Tom DeWinter

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Quad Cities, IL

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I started with the LMH100 and its mechanical "gyro". It was a handful trying to learn, but it's possible. Hats off to you guys who learned with NO Gyro! But, it seems you early flyers measured success in how many seconds before crash.

I used the CSM 180 to learn the Raptor until I graduated to HH. It worked well and is super simple to setup.

My used CSM180 is available for $50 shipped UPS Ground to the contiguous 48 States.

Tom

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03-16-2003 09:08 PM  14 years agoPost 15
PeterLNH999

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Clovis, CA - USA

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isn't it true that..

Isn't it true that full scale helis don't have gyros or anything?? If so, how does a full-scale pilot control the heli?

Pete

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03-17-2003 12:37 AM  14 years agoPost 16
Woody218

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Bismarck, ND

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In a full-scale heli, you're inside the thing, you can feel the nose wanting to yaw left or right. Also, there aren't any full-scale helis that will pirouette 720 degrees in a second.


Gravity Always Wins!

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03-17-2003 02:40 AM  14 years agoPost 17
JEraptor

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Kankakee IL

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OOPS

A few days ago I was setting the endpoints on my GY601 and when I was done I forgot to scroll away from that screen.
The next flight was VERY short and I consider myself lucky to not be buying parts.

When in the limit screen, the gyro does not send any input to the servo and you are controlling the rudder directly with the rudder stick.

kabegalphish, GET a GYRO.

And to those who have flown successfully without a gyro, YOU ARE DA MAN!!!

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03-17-2003 02:58 AM  14 years agoPost 18
rlm

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centennial, co

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Here is a video of a guy that probably wishes he had a gyro.
http://rotorsoftherockies.com/images/HELOCRASH.WMV

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03-17-2003 12:17 PM  14 years agoPost 19
tommytee

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NorthEast UK,​Newcastle

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lol, great clip

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