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03-12-2003 12:01 PM  14 years agoPost 1
SkydiveHelis

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I am looking into another heli, 60 size this time. Either one will have a TT70 in it, just curious as to which might be the better bet.

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03-12-2003 12:24 PM  14 years agoPost 2
z11355

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this question is really one of the top
three deadest horses here.

I'd urge you to use the 'search' facility
to find the millions of words already
spilled on this topic.

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03-12-2003 03:00 PM  14 years agoPost 3
rcadd1ct

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Absolutely posatively .......get another heli.

-RCA .......... Making Cuisinarts Fly!!!!!!!

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03-12-2003 09:19 PM  14 years agoPost 4
n0irw

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Freya....hands down....lots of machine for the buck.

Kevin

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03-12-2003 09:42 PM  14 years agoPost 5
Tom Berg

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Raptor 60....Hands Down......It will do anything you want it to for the best "bang" for you buck

Sorry Guys, I had to do it

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03-12-2003 09:52 PM  14 years agoPost 6
Dazzler

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I have both the Freya, and the Raptor 60. The Freya as far as quality is the best, period. It cost more than the Raptor, so if money is an issue I would go with a Raptor. The Freya flies more stable than the Raptor and the Freya is trouble free, whereas the Raptor does have some quirks that needs attention.

Bottomline if I could only keep one heli, I would easily choose to keep the Freya. The Raptor is a very nice heli, it just doesnt compare to the Freya, in my opinion. Daz...

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03-12-2003 10:17 PM  14 years agoPost 7
BigRob

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HAHA

Yeah, beat the horse now till it comes back to life.

I have a Freya and R60V2.

IMO, the Raptor 60 is my favorite choice to beat the hell out of. The stock configuration is super stable. Some may say it's too stable, but nothing a quick switch to the paddles couldn't fix. It's easy to fix, because of all the modular items and parts are readily available in most LHS. Although, it is a little rough around the edges in terms of performance.

What makes the Freya great is the rotor head design. It is a little heavier when compared to the R60 but the performance more than makes up for this downside. The collective pitch upgrade is a must and costs $40 (thats unless you have an old TSK sitting around with a T-lever )

Both are fine heli's. If you're looking for something easy and fast to repair in crashes, I would have to recommend the R60, otherwise, if you are trying to do more precision/smooth type flight, go with the Freya. The crash/cost facotr between the two isn't too different.


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03-12-2003 10:38 PM  14 years agoPost 8
Waldo

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One more for the glue factory.

I'll put a vote in for the R60.

[b]Bill[/b]

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03-13-2003 01:21 AM  14 years agoPost 9
dennis_cica

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WHATABOUT The predator????? Century has a new 60 which is days away! http://www.centuryheli.com for details on the be all end all of the 60/70/90 class.

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03-13-2003 01:43 AM  14 years agoPost 10
Kaos

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Freya

I've owned both and I'd get the Freya. Hell, I've owned 5 Raptor 60. The Freya's head is better and is adjustable. The Raptor's head is not adjustable and does not like extremely hard manuevers. On the Raptor, you can change the paddles and I believe TT is comig out with different durometer dampners.

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03-13-2003 02:55 AM  14 years agoPost 11
FLYHOBO123

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Freya

I agree the pony is out of gas. The Freya has plenty of gas right out of the box.

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03-13-2003 03:52 AM  14 years agoPost 12
Indrid

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i second the pred option, it is shaping up to be something superior to the raptor, and competitive with the fury. (i know i am gonna get ripped apart for even mentioning MA and Century in the same sentence... )

plus for $495, its quite affordable.... and is all aluminum.

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03-13-2003 11:38 AM  14 years agoPost 13
SkydiveHelis

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Thanks for all the replies. The technical descriptions are what I am looking for and they are helping quite a bit. Not to open another can of worms here, but I am leaning towards the Freya right now because of the plastic frames. I just don't want to buy another radio just to get PCM for a metal framed heli. So far for me FM is doing great, but the sceadu is plastic. I know about loose bolts metal to metal, but plastic frames are more forgiving of radio glitching if I do happen to overlook a loose bit. The price on the Raptor is great, but if Heliproz is suggesting upgrades right out of the box, although not necessary, it kinda gets me thinking. Not that it would need those parts, but when someone suggests a bit or a piece, I just can't help myself. Not looking to spend an obscene amount of money, but what I need to spend to get into the air with a good machine. I have seen in flight boomstrikes with the raptor, but not even heard of one with a Freya.

Thanks again for all the replies. Every bit helps

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03-13-2003 01:44 PM  14 years agoPost 14
Waldo

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I've used FM in my Raptor 60 for two years and never had a glitch, don't base your purchase on that piece of bad information. As for Heliproz and recommending uprgrade parts, well thats because they make the upgrade parts they recommend. Yes people have had boom strikes with the R60, and in almost every case I bet the blades were not properly tightend and the head speed was not high enough. The bottom line is the Raptor 60 will fly great out of the box.

[b]Bill[/b]

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03-13-2003 02:48 PM  14 years agoPost 15
EChapkis

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Freya, Raptor, Fury

Why would anyone go with an unknown heli like a Preditor? I know I don't want to be the ginny pig. It very well maybe a great machine, My attitude is let the other guy find out.

The Fury was full of problems when first released. Still has some. MA is great at replacement parts and fixes, but that doesn't matter when you crash because of a failure.

The Raptor is a good machine, awesome price point. Performance is not up to a Freya or Fury.

The Freya is based of the well proven Eagle design. Great performance out of the box. It wasn't perfect at first but the issues were minor. You can take a base SST Freya and as you expand and grow, turn into a EXWC if you want. It is expandable to a full bore top of the line FAI machine.

The Fury is the same way. Start off with a Basic Fury 60. It can be upgraded to an Extreme.

While these costs to upgrade are usually cost prohibitive, these machines are rooted in performance.

Century is not known for a 60+ size heli so I would be very leary to buy it until it prooves itself. I have a Century Scale TwinStar is which a great machine.

I almost bought an all out upgraded Raptor 60 V2 for $1100. The guy had almost 2 grand into it. Sorry, no Raptor 60 is worth 2 grand. For 2 grand, I would have a Freya EXWC, Pro IIK, or Caliper 60.

Evan Chapkis Tampa, Florida

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03-13-2003 10:24 PM  14 years agoPost 16
skycom

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Got to be the Raptor, no question.
Freya is ok for high days and holidays

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03-14-2003 12:38 AM  14 years agoPost 17
Hivoltage

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The shiny anodized upgrade parts are made because people buy them. Very few if any of them make a huge difference in flying....Its just more stuf to sell and make money.

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03-14-2003 03:27 AM  14 years agoPost 18
Jeff Swartz

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Skydive, bring your Sceadu 50 with you and come down to YRCHA (Youngstown Ohio Club) its only about an hour or so and I will show you how a R60 can fly!

I hammered on my "full stock" machine all last year and never had one problem that wasn't earth caused. Crashed 2 times and both times were pretty hard, yet still quick and inexpensive to fix, and flew exactly like it did before the crash.

Back to the standard saying... Go and get what what you want, or what the locals are flying around you. Don't base you decission on what to go buy based on someones opionion that you never heard of before, and probably never will hear of agian.

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03-14-2003 03:42 AM  14 years agoPost 19
Tyler

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I have had both

I owned a R60V2 and Freya at the same time. I flew them both with the exact same engines, servos, blades, etc. I sold the R60 recently.

Depends on your flying level, too. If you crash alot stay with the R60. I have found the crash costs to be significantly different between the two. The R60 is much cheaper to fix. If you can keep a bird together for any reasonable period of time you will quickly come to appreciate the Freya. The freya flies so much better in my opinion.

Tyler

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03-14-2003 03:45 AM  14 years agoPost 20
Dave_D

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Normally I would flip a coin on this subject, but just last weekend a flying buddy's R60 had a mid-air boomstrike. Although I too had a mid-air boomstrike with the Freya, I am pretty sure the fault was all mine when I forgot to tighten the blade bolts.

On the R60, we found the head and the blade bolts were on pretty tight and it still exploded in mid-air when doing some mild aerobatics.

Needless to say, I'd prefer a bone stock Freya over a R60 any day.

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