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03-11-2003 10:27 PM  14 years agoPost 1
helimike77

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I took my Sceadu 50 up today and everything seemed normal. No changes since last time. Made a turn and flew by pretty fast. Went to make a left banked turn and the fun began.

Suddenly I lost control of the hel as it did a death spiral towards the ground. Still banked to the left. Seemed as though I had no control of it. I finally got it to stop with the nose facing me and about 6 feet to spare. The blades sounded like was was doing some pretty intense 3-D.

I decided to call it a day since I was shaking soo bad. When I got home I noticed that the pins were not in the slots in the washout. With the CCPM Sceadu you can actually move the swashplate down far enough that the pins no longer reach the washout.....The servos however will never pull it down this far.

I am running failsafe with a PCM reciever and deans whip antenna. Does this sound like an interference problem i experienced or is it because the washout wasnt placed right?

Just want to be sure before i head back out.

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Mike

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03-11-2003 11:13 PM  14 years agoPost 2
eddie13231

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That's what pcm is designed to do I believe?

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03-11-2003 11:15 PM  14 years agoPost 3
tonysrepair

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Sounds like the washout being out of time before you started. I can't see it dropping down while in flight like it can while sitting static with the power off. Did it bend the control rods from the swash plate?

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03-11-2003 11:17 PM  14 years agoPost 4
helimike77

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Actually i guess my question is if the two slider pins come out of the washout base is it still flyable. Is there any fixes to stop the swashplate from being pushed down that far? Just trying to figure out what caused that to happen.

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03-11-2003 11:19 PM  14 years agoPost 5
helimike77

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I dont see anything bent or damaged tony? The reason it fell so fast is because it was leaning on its side and I was fighting to get it back level. My fail safe is just set to return to an idle. Dont really think it ever went to idle because i think the blades would of stopped from all the fighting i was doing

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03-11-2003 11:25 PM  14 years agoPost 6
tonysrepair

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I think it just slid down to far while the power was off . Are you running the stock washout block ? I installed a Quick japan washout and arms from cyberheli because it was so cheap and then purchased a Freya ex washout guide . I think the pins are a little longer and it wont fall apart when the power is off.

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03-11-2003 11:27 PM  14 years agoPost 7
helimike77

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yeah its the stock one. Probably gonna have to do the same on mine. Im sure it slid out with the power off. Never had this problem with this bird before. Believe me i will be adding that to my preflight checklist .

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03-11-2003 11:33 PM  14 years agoPost 8
tonysrepair

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I always pick up the heli by the rotor head and felt the washout block move in my hand before I replaced it with shiny new pieces. I set her down , turned her off and retimed the washout block . I guess if you don't do much 3-D you could just move the guide down on the shaft. Loose a little +pitch

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03-11-2003 11:44 PM  14 years agoPost 9
Sceadu

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Would putting a bit of plastic tubing around the bottom of the main mast to stop the swash from going down too far work? Just a thought as mine does the same thing.

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03-11-2003 11:46 PM  14 years agoPost 10
tonysrepair

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I don't see why not .

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03-12-2003 12:00 AM  14 years agoPost 11
helimike77

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When you say time the washout is that the same as phasing? This only my second heli next to the raptor which didnt have this step. I just set it up per the manual. Should I be checking this often?

Thanks
Mike

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03-12-2003 12:21 AM  14 years agoPost 12
tonysrepair

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When I say timing , in the assembly manual they show a drawing of the flybar timed to the swashplate via the washout block,guide .

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03-12-2003 04:22 AM  14 years agoPost 13
helimike77

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Thats what I thought. Thanks Tony

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