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03-12-2003 04:13 PM  14 years agoPost 21
FinnDave

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Plus electrics IMHO are for "toy" applications
Yes! I am NOT alone! Brilliant, well said!

David S., Kouvola, Finland

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03-12-2003 04:55 PM  14 years agoPost 22
JCadwell

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I have no idea whether they would have it, or even could get it. Lots of people in Australia are brewing fuel using M, and it works well for them. I have no personal experience with it.

Thanks, John Cadwell

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03-12-2003 05:04 PM  14 years agoPost 23
Jamovich

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argh

Well that is australia...the Indian domestic market is still quite limited, and therefore the entire range of many product lines are not available. I would bet 90% that they won't even know what the hell Castrol M is

Oh well

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03-12-2003 05:09 PM  14 years agoPost 24
JCadwell

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They might be able to get it through the right channels... It is a start if nothing else. You might just have to mail order what you want (ouch). Good luck.

Thanks, John Cadwell

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03-12-2003 05:52 PM  14 years agoPost 25
hyflyr

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Well I guess you have not looked at the electrics very hard. They are definately not toys and the performance on the new generation of Li-poly cells is amazing. The writing is on the wall and the electrics will be mainstream very shortly. So go ahead and struggle with your fuel problem. I was only trying to offer an alternative that maybe easier to live with. Go to the electric forum here and look at the performance some guys are getting now and then tell me they are "toys". The only drawback now is the cost upfront. They are more expensive initially but the performance is there.

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03-12-2003 06:01 PM  14 years agoPost 26
FinnDave

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Some people simply happen to prefer playing with dirty, oily, noisy, difficult to tune engines. I know I do!

David S., Kouvola, Finland

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03-13-2003 12:52 AM  14 years agoPost 27
hyflyr

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me too!!! But I was offering an alternative fuel source for someone who probably has plenty of electricity and poor access to:

BeNOL - Racing Castor Oil Degummed and Extra Fortified or
BLENDZALL - "Green" Racing Castor 2-Cycle - #4600 or
Maxima Castor 927 or any of the other great castor oils that are
plentiful over here.

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03-14-2003 10:56 AM  14 years agoPost 28
Jamovich

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Electric

Which electric heli would u consider "good?" Li-poly based of course. And I hate mini helicopters...I like .60 size.


All the ones I have seen are smaller than a .30, or look like flimsy toys...

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03-14-2003 02:41 PM  14 years agoPost 29
Welsh Rap

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Silkolene Oils

Can you get hold of Silkolene Pro KR2 (Karting Two stroke pre mix oil). It's a blend of castor and 100% synthetic oil, It is fully micsible with methanol and nitro methane. I have used it for mixing straight fuel with a ratio of 17% oil / 83% Methanol. On larger engines it seems to work fine and not too messy compared with castor straight. I've found that the smaller heli's (30 - 50 size) tend to like a bit of nitro, which is very expensive to source in small quantities.

I hope this helps

Ash

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03-14-2003 03:53 PM  14 years agoPost 30
hyflyr

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http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...?threadid=98262

This is the Joker.

http://www.flightenergy.com/

Check out the videos on this site.

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03-14-2003 04:23 PM  14 years agoPost 31
CeeJay

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Hey, why not check with Rick's RCHeli it seems I remember Ron telling he that he stocked Morgan's Green oil. That stuff is pure synthetic and works well in CP15% fuel. I don't know if they will ship to your location or not, but hell it's worth a try.

I'd hate to know I had to run pure castor lube in these helis, man what a mess!

CeeJay

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03-14-2003 04:58 PM  14 years agoPost 32
sharam

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Jamovich,

Some of the newer electrics are no longer toys!! Battery technology has come a long way.

New battery tech is also allowing much longer flight times and faster charge times. It's worth looking at. I have seen some Logo helis at my field that are just amazing in terms of 3D flight and duration of flight.

I have four glo powered helis and my next one will be an electric powered version.

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03-14-2003 08:41 PM  14 years agoPost 33
sincity

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Some of the newer electrics are no longer toys!!
And no where near affordable!

I agree, they are looking more and more desirable, but for the price of the high end electrics, they will remain on the shelf for me.

We'll see in a couple years what they look like. I was very impressed with Alan Jr. flying that Joker. Once those types are mainstream, I'll be signing up for one!

Shawn

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03-15-2003 03:50 AM  14 years agoPost 34
Jamovich

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price

How much would one of thoese "high end" ones cost? The joker's price is $999..but the flight time is still a pathetic 8 min (u have to consider that the recharge time on those batteries will still be 2 hours!)I would have to buy 6 battery packs and keep them all charged!!! (When I fly....it is AT LEAST for an hour!)

I have heard of helis flying for 30 mins...what kind of batteries do they use? And how much does a setup like that cost? (Only those kind of flightimes would even remotely appeal to me, as I hate the fly/recharge time ratio.)


thanks

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03-15-2003 03:52 AM  14 years agoPost 35
Jamovich

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and

I fly every day of the week!


(Once my stupid nexus is working again)

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03-15-2003 06:29 AM  14 years agoPost 36
hyflyr

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You could get by with 2 flight packs on the Joker and get an hours worth of flying. Read this post :

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...?threadid=98262

He is getting 2 15minute flights per charge. I don't know about you but my YS91 is lucky to get 12 min. per flight. So 15 min. has my big block beat. I only need 12 min. per flight and I need the rest.

You have an excellent point on the charge cycle times. On a Joker charging turnaround is a problem currently. The chargers for the Li-po's are not quite up to the task for the big packs. They will be here soon. This stuff is just getting hot. Give it a little while and the E-helis
will be every bit the performers the glow machines are now.

The initial cost is high on the E-helis but consider you are buying the
heli and all the fuel up front. Price a glow heli and add 2yrs worth of glow fuel. Glow or electric the costs will end up being pretty close.

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03-15-2003 11:24 AM  14 years agoPost 37
Jamovich

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li po

How much would a pack of Li pos cost? (Similar to the ones in the link) I doubt that the batteries cost $1600!

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