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12-03-2007 02:11 AM  9 years agoPost 1
John4Vario

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For anybody interested, i have a bunch of pictures and a few videos following my build of my Apache here:
http://www.scalerchelis.com/g2/main.php/v/john4vario/
Take a look!

John

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12-03-2007 06:55 AM  9 years agoPost 2
ausfly

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ive decided to strive to get one of these after christmas. how does it go electric? it would suck the juice out of the batteries due to the size wouldnt it. im still thinking about using the zenoha. wonder how it goes with over heating being in the fuse. it gets hot enough as it is. i was thinking of putting some cpu fans around it to keep it cool

my wife says no more helis!!!!! " what's that dear, i cant hear you!"

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12-03-2007 08:23 AM  9 years agoPost 3
3dee

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John that is amazing building detail. I have got loads of questions whats the kit and how much has it cost to get it looking like that. I live in the UK will I be able to get one. I was late for work because I had to look at all the pics and videos. how long did it take to do, and would it go ic and if yes what size do you think. hope you can answer some of the questions, I fly a raptor 90se but after seeing this I have to go scale soon thank you for taking the time to do photos and vids.

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12-03-2007 04:12 PM  9 years agoPost 4
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Electric for sure

Ausfly,
As far as i know you need to adress the heat problem with a gasser very carefully, but as far as i know it is very much possible.
Personally i made the choice for electric and i'm very glad i did.
I do know that if it gets too hot in the fuse you will strip the maingear for sure, but i think Kerry from Indyhelis is working on double gears, like a Bergen setup and that probably works better/safer.
The only problem i had with electric was the price of them 2 big boy batteries you have to invest in, but i'm very glad i did.
Good luck!

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12-03-2007 04:32 PM  9 years agoPost 5
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Cost

3dee,
as far as the cost goes you'll be looking at $2000 for the kit and the weapons.
I don't know what it would cost to ship to the UK, but Kerry will be able to tell you that, i guess.
Call me stupid , but what do you measn by 'going IC'?
If you go electric you'll be looking roughly at another $4000 for everything, maybe a little more.
If going electric it makes the apint job real easy, just ultra flat camo from Krylon, because there are no fuel issues with the paint then, and i think i spend only about $80 on paint and primer!
That is not counting a multitude of tools/machines i used and allready had, and from there it'll take time...
I started building in July, but only through the week in the evenings and recently i lost my job, which gave me the chance to work on it full time!
All in all i'd say that working on it in the evenings and the weekends it would take you about 8 - 10 months to finish it, depending on how far you want to go with detail and/or moving parts.
So far i have not gone overboard on accessoiries detail but i probably will later on so that'll add more time to it.
Just study/outline and placing the rivets took me roughly 30 hours all tohether.
I used the rivet kit from Starwood models and that works really well, after a little "training" with it.
If you have any more questions just post them here and i'll be happy to try to answer them.

John

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12-03-2007 04:32 PM  9 years agoPost 6
coptercptn

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Great lookin Build John!!...I may have to run down the street and see that thing in person!
Have you flown it yet?
Does the interior w/pilots come with the kit? great detail throughout..

Home of the "Sea Cobra".....

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12-03-2007 04:43 PM  9 years agoPost 7
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In person..

Hi coptercptn,
I don't know how far away you live but you're very welcome to come and see it in person.
As for flying it has 2 flights on it to date.
first was testflight with a 'bare' fuselage and just mechanics, which went extremely well and the second flight was fully buildup, after paint etc. and i had bad shakes in it, but some of that my fault and it was to be expected.
After painting the blades i never balance checked them and just went to the field and 'took off'.
I seriously reinforced the mechanics position and balanced the blades, so all that is left is tracking the blades which should only take time.
Oh, the pilots do not come with the kit and as far as i know they are very hard to find nowadays....these are the 'official' apache pilots (marshall)
Giving the outside temps now i may have to do this indoors...lol.
Give me a call if you want to come over!
217 377 5353

John

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12-03-2007 05:19 PM  9 years agoPost 8
coptercptn

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I'm on the other end of the state...Near Waukegan. but it looks like just to see it would be worth the trip...maybe when the weather gets warmer and I have to Goldwing out...or when I get my MD500 done I'll bring it with.
Also just bought a Century Huey to play with.."In the Mail"

Jim

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12-03-2007 05:48 PM  9 years agoPost 9
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Sounds like a plan!

I had a goldwing myself, but i would find it hard to transport helis on it!
So happens to be that i have a 500E from Vario (benzin mechanics)laying around and that'll be my next build.
Would love to see your copters! Bring'em!!!

John

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12-03-2007 07:39 PM  9 years agoPost 10
3dee

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thanks for info john, the"ic" is internal combustion or not electric or petrol or you could say glow fuel

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12-05-2007 04:02 AM  9 years agoPost 11
cub2000

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Let me know when you're ready to sell this sweetie. I'm interested

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12-06-2007 02:50 AM  9 years agoPost 12
John4Vario

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I guess everything has a price...
This one would be pretty stiff though, in my book that is.
I do love big projects like this so make me "an offer i can't refuse".
I'm not even done yet though

John

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12-06-2007 09:55 PM  9 years agoPost 13
Hoverup

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Thanks for sharing John. Excellent photo coverage. You've motivated me to get started on my IndyHelis.com AH-64A

Cheers - Boyd
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12-07-2007 02:59 AM  9 years agoPost 14
John4Vario

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Boyd,
good luck with the build, my friend.
I'm sure you'll love it and have a great time with it!

John

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12-23-2007 05:00 AM  9 years agoPost 15
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added pics to my gallery

I added some pics to my gallery concerning the extra bulkheads for the mechanics support.Since it's been way too cold there has been no testing in flight with the added supports, but as soon as the weather allows it, or I get brave enough again to do it indoors, strapped to a table I'll let you all know.

John
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01-01-2008 07:46 AM  9 years agoPost 16
John4Vario

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most likely putting it up for sale.
immigration purposes!

John

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01-12-2008 12:39 AM  9 years agoPost 17
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Sold to Hoverup

The build link stays.

John

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