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HelicopterMain Discussion › Port/Starboard vs Left/Right
12-02-2007 10:16 PM  10 years agoPost 21
GimbalFan (RIP)

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You might want to check with a real pilot . . . and I don't mean a harbor pilot.
Oh, how predictably typical. Human nature never ceases to entertain, eh?

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12-02-2007 10:18 PM  10 years agoPost 22
Frank Bostwick

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I am no pilot but dont aircraft use red for port/left and green for starboard too? Same as a watercraft.

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12-02-2007 10:19 PM  10 years agoPost 23
Frank Bostwick

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and fore & aft for to the front and/or back?

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12-02-2007 10:20 PM  10 years agoPost 24
dialarotor

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Spend any time around naval aviators and you will find they use port and starboard. Your anti-collision/ position lights take their left/port/red and right/starboard/green arrangements from maritime protocall. Remember a significant part of early aviation involve amphibious aircraft.
The lighting is made similar as aircraft on the water are treated as vessels according to the navigation rules and regulations.
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12-02-2007 10:21 PM  10 years agoPost 25
AirWolfRC

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I am no pilot but dont aircraft use red for port/left and green for starboard too? Same as a watercraft.
Yes, they do.
And a lot of military aircraft are painted something like "battle ship grey".

But that still does not mandate the same use of terms.

When ATC (Air Traffic Control) is talking to aircraft, they say something like "turn left to 270", not "turn port to 270".

Or "cleard to land 23 right", not "cleared to land 23 starboard".

And the markings on the runway are 23L and 23R, not 23P and 23S

And during flight training you learn about left hand patern and right hand patern, not port patern and starboard patern.

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12-02-2007 10:22 PM  10 years agoPost 26
Frank Bostwick

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Yea but it sure implies and relationship or a shared history

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12-02-2007 10:40 PM  10 years agoPost 27
AirWolfRC

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So where did Port and Starboard come from ?

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12-02-2007 10:43 PM  10 years agoPost 28
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Port and Starboard.

Short versions: Port refers to the side of the ship cargo was most commonly loaded and offloaded from at the 'port', and Starboard refers to the side most commonly used to operate the steering oar from (aka steerboard) on early sailing vessels.

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12-02-2007 10:43 PM  10 years agoPost 29
SuperSixTwo

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I have to agree with[/B]AirWolfRc[B] I've never heard ATC give out P/S directions. But i do remember the section of the regulations about aircraft lighting which the FAA does refer to the lights as P/S but also have left and right for dummies like me.

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12-02-2007 10:48 PM  10 years agoPost 30
GimbalFan (RIP)

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The terms don't so much apply to comm or maneuvers or runways as they do to physical locations on an aircraft (the port nacelle, the starboard wingtank, etc) just like they did on early sailing vessels. Therein lies the distinction.

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12-02-2007 10:53 PM  10 years agoPost 31
Frank Bostwick

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As I used P/S while boating, it was really to see how the other boat was oriented. Coming straight at me, passing P/S etc. At night on the river it can be hard to tell, P/S & lights are important.

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12-03-2007 01:59 AM  10 years agoPost 32
Yug

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"There's no red port left" damn I'm thirsty
For helis, if you're even thinking port or starboard, then it's too late

Vegetable rights and Peace

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12-03-2007 04:33 PM  10 years agoPost 33
cessna151

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Port and starboard are nautical terms, not for aircraft.
What about Starships?

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12-04-2007 01:24 AM  10 years agoPost 34
A. Gordon

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I only own a 12ft jonboat, so port-starboard never crossed my mind. Left-right was hard enough. Sometimes the mind can out think itself, in my case this usually ended up in a crash, so I guess just do what comes natural.

All for the spectators!!

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12-04-2007 01:44 AM  10 years agoPost 35
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I rely on muscle memory, and so does he:
Maverick: You don't have time to think up there. If you think, you're dead.

Depleting the world of parts, one crash at a time!!

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