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12-02-2007 11:48 AM  9 years agoPost 1
TPMX

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Hanoverton,Ohio

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It finally has happened.
I crash my Raptor 30 v.2 yesterday.
I am just starting nose in and thought I had a better grasp on it than I did.
I had the heli facing me and it started coming in toward me,I pulled the nose up to slow it down but must not have given it any collective to hold the altitude,it started losing altitude too fast and I pulled the nose up more and it was all over real fast.
I don,t know why I have a habit of just pulling the nose up and think it will gain altitude that way,must come from flying airplanes.
I know you need to give an airplane more throttle to climb but you just have a tad more time too think.
I should of turned to tail in as soon I realized things weren,t well.
Easy to say now.
Anyway I need to order parts,where does everyone recommend?
Has anyone ever ordered from here: https://www.helikraft.com/index.php
There prices are good ,shipping is high but I can,t find where they are located.
THANKS

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12-02-2007 01:27 PM  9 years agoPost 2
MichaelP

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Northumberland UK

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We have all done it, what a wonderful thing hindsight is.
Get the repairs done and get right back on with it!

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12-02-2007 02:19 PM  9 years agoPost 3
AltecLansing

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North Carolina

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just wait, I crash quite regularly. For a while there, I crashed every weekend for one reason or another. Its a part of flying and learning to fly.

Man, I miss the eighties.

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12-02-2007 02:59 PM  9 years agoPost 4
altima1779

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Toledo, oh u.s

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If you have a sim i would practice nose in on it more before you start to do it in the real world. If you don't have one that would be the next thing i would get after rebuilding. It will save you tons of money.

You need to be able to react without thinking when you are flying. Yes you are correct about turning tail in as soon as you feel you are in trouble. We had a guy at are field that was new and we told he wasn't ready to try nose in, he just wouldn't listen or understand why we told him not to try it yet. Next thing you know he is over the pits and back behind himself. I guess this wasn't a enough of a scare so he went home and did it again and had a pretty major crash.

These Helicopters can be a danger and are costly to fix, sometimes it is better to take things slow.

Good luck Dave

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12-02-2007 03:01 PM  9 years agoPost 5
AltecLansing

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North Carolina

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when you do practice nose in with your heli, take it up high. I did my first nose in at about 50 feet.

Man, I miss the eighties.

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12-02-2007 05:28 PM  9 years agoPost 6
smcbmw

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Louisville, Kentucky

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I learned some good advice from a member here who stated " practice 3 mistakes high" I quickly learned that altitude was my friend. Any time I decide to try something new, I am least 50 ft up and this gives me plenty of time to think about how I am going to keep from crashing.

10-8

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12-02-2007 05:34 PM  9 years agoPost 7
Ronald Thomas

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Gainesville, Fl, USA

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On my first attempt on nose in, I went high and was able to survive the "OH $HIT$". Keep it up there high enough to beable to recover but not so hight that you can't judge orientation well....Ron

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12-02-2007 06:01 PM  9 years agoPost 8
TPMX

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Hanoverton,Ohio

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CRASH

I do have a sim and practice every night.
Nose in is easy on there.
Last week I went nose in and had no problems.
This week I lost it.
I do need to get higher ,I was only about 10 feet off the ground.
Boy did it crack when it hit the ground.
I just put it away for a couple hours then later cleaned and dismantled what I needed to.
Then it didn,t look to bad.
I guess I shouldn,t have thought this wouldn,t happen.HAHA
I am thinking about replacing some parts with upgraded aluminum,
do you think that is wise at this point or just stay stock.
I need a swashplate ,washout set,main rotor head, linkages,servo mount plus the regular crash items.
Need a good place to buy parts.

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12-02-2007 06:06 PM  9 years agoPost 9
chuckhager

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Clovis, CA

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Anyway I need to order parts,where does everyone recommend?
I use Heliproz for most of my parts. http://www.heliproz.com/products.asp?dept=74

Chuck Hager

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12-03-2007 03:25 AM  9 years agoPost 10
A. Gordon

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Farnham,Va.-USA

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I use heliproz too, great people to deal with.

All for the spectators!!

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12-04-2007 02:57 PM  9 years agoPost 11
redvtr1000

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covington, GA

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Most of my crashes have come from nose in adventures. Flying a mini titan so it doesn't hurt me so bad to watch it go in. I still hate it anywy.

I don't use a sim, wouldn't mind having one but I keep finding other ways to spend my cash. Ten feet probably isn't enough, start high and work your way down. I have seen a few different approaches to nose in. Maybe try throwing your training gear on and learning it over like you do when you learn tail in (bottom up) or stick with Top down.

I do a combination of the top down (because after ditching the training gear, the last thing I wanted to do was put it back on) and when I go nose in down low (under 15feet) I usually am practicing figure 8s.

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12-04-2007 06:24 PM  9 years agoPost 12
michael88997

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Lewisville,Tx

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i learned noes in about 40 ft off the ground and brought it down... then got to where i could land and take off noes in... im doing the same technique learning inverted hovering... i have got to about 20 ft off the ground so far

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