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12-02-2007 03:40 AM  9 years agoPost 1
jal250r

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Was at movie store and my soon to be wife who is a nurse wanted to rent this movie by Michael Moore called Sicko. I must say up to this point I have never been a big Moore fan. He always came off a little anti American to me. But I must say this movie is a must see. By the end of the movie I was on the end of couch speechless. I wouldn't say this movie is at all anti American. It just really tells just how bad are health care system can be and how its not getting fixed. Fell free to let us know how you feel about this...

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12-02-2007 03:45 AM  9 years agoPost 2
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I haven't seen it because I refuse to buy MM's crap.

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12-02-2007 03:52 AM  9 years agoPost 3
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Couldn't care less. MM is a total MORON!!!!

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12-02-2007 03:57 AM  9 years agoPost 4
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Too sad. It is a very important issue and if anyone else had made this movie it would have made a much bigger and wider impact, instead of helping the issue, I think he hurt it by making the movie.

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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12-02-2007 03:58 AM  9 years agoPost 5
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I have never been a big Moore fan. He always came off a little anti American to me.
I don't think Moore believes in Torture, wiretaping Americans, pre emptive war and massive debt, so he maybe anti American by today standards.
I haven't seen it because I refuse to buy MM's crap.
LOL M.C. thats because you've spenting all you have on buying Conservative crap. There are haves in America and been hads and M.C. you are a been had.

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12-02-2007 04:00 AM  9 years agoPost 6
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I think he hurt it by making the movie.
I truly fear for our future when I read the posts on here.

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12-02-2007 04:05 AM  9 years agoPost 7
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Do you disagree with that statment?

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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12-02-2007 04:13 AM  9 years agoPost 8
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Yea, lets let the Gov run one more thing, LOL. As if they haven't F'd things up bad enough.

You guys bitch about the Gov, left or right, then say you want give them one more thing to control such as health care, WOW.

I agree health care has its issues but letting the MAN run it is not the answer.

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12-02-2007 04:23 AM  9 years agoPost 9
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That sucks that we cant trust our own Gov to control our heath care.

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12-02-2007 04:26 AM  9 years agoPost 10
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Yea, lets let the Gov run one more thing, LOL. As if they haven't F'd things up bad enough.
Yea the people your ilk vote for sure do F things up, who's your next pick for President M.C.
Do you disagree with that statment?
Hell yes, any light that is shined on this issue is good. Just because a few scumbags will shoot the messenger doesn't mean the message is wrong, my God give your brain a chance CJames.

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12-02-2007 04:38 AM  9 years agoPost 11
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Moore's movies are propaganda.

Several of his "facts" have been debunked over and over. He takes the best of situations he approves of and compares it to the worst of the situations he is trying to make look bad.

Seen them all...But bought into none of them.

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12-02-2007 04:44 AM  9 years agoPost 12
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Want a taste of "Health Care" , take it from one who is experienced.
May 28th, wife went into the hospital. Comatose.Emergency room at 2;30 in the morning.
Within one hour, Dr. calls me and stepson into the room and tells us point blank, She is brain dead, and you need to go outside,think it over and let me know what to do, as in unplug her from Life Support.
OK, Been there, less then 45 mins, and she is brain dead.
No treatment , only stomach pumping, and she is brain dead.
Well,me and stepson ain't going for that ****. So we talk, go back and ask some questions. Same answer, she is gone, and you need to make a decision.
OK,back outside. more talk, more crying, all the stuff that goes with a tragic deal. Not believing this is happening.
Back inside, more questions. Dr. says, ok guys, Im going to send her to have a CAT Scan, and that will tell us what we need to know. OK, so she goes to Cat Scan, back in about 30 mins. Another talk with the Dr.
Thats it guys, she has no brain activity at all, so, what do you want to do? You need to make a decision, cause im leaving here in 30 mins. !!!
Well, you know what we said about his 30 mins.
Now this is pushing 6:00 am. We go back out and talk for over an hour. Finally make the decision to unplug her.
Go back in, and low and behold, we have a new Dr. and nurses.
Dr. intros himself, tells us he has seen her charts, and has talked to "That Dr.". Tells us that he cannot advise us to unplug her.
Now, we have been told for 3 hours, that she is brain dead. Cannot be transferred to another hospital, cause they will not take a brain dead patient.
Now, this guy is telling me that he cannot advise us to unplug her. ??? Needless to say, I got a little upset.
Long story made short.
She was transferred to Another hospital, spent 26 days in ICU, and another 26 in recovery. She is now at home and doing quite well. As in almost totally normal, Cooking , cleaning, gardening, all the regular things that wifes do.
Instead of sitting on the mantle, as the first Dr. would have had her doing.
Total cost: $378.000 for in hospital care, not counting Drs' in the hospital. Another 30.000.00.
Emergency room was only 10000.00, for the privilage of almost killing her.
Welcome to the American Health Care System.
Unfortunately, didn't have insurance on her. So, got a minor problem with paying the bill. But will survive.
I would highly recommend a second opinion, in life or death matters.
Had I been Illegal, would have been free , Ain't that amazing.
Oh, and by the way, CAT SCANS ,DO NOT SHOW BRAIN ACTIVITY. Lied to us about the scan.

Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again

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12-02-2007 04:51 AM  9 years agoPost 13
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Several of his "facts" have been debunked over and over
I dont think the fact that he made that our heath care is in great danger can be debunked. But some of is past movies have been.
jimco
Sorry to hear about your wife and the big bill. But at least she is still alive my friend

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12-02-2007 04:56 AM  9 years agoPost 14
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wow, jimco, that's amazing. Thankfully she's doing well.

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12-02-2007 04:56 AM  9 years agoPost 15
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In addition, refuse to pay for any procedures that didn't directly contribute to her return to health, like the first doc and the cat scan.

Threaten malpractice -- that often will improve their willingness to negotiate.

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12-02-2007 04:59 AM  9 years agoPost 16
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what is anyone going to do when all the natural herbs and vegetables that are known to aid in healing are either banned,deemed illegal or downright eleminated?, none othe than big pharma, and their money grabbing schemes just like the govt.!

Smile! people will wonder what you're up to!!

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12-02-2007 05:05 AM  9 years agoPost 17
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Whats really bad, had the emergency room Dr. done his job, she would have been up and running in a week.
They did nothing but a suction on the stomach,. No flushing with charcoal and saline, nothing. Pumped it out, 220ml. of fluid, put her on resporator, and starting hammering us to unplug her.
She should have had 2 detox treatments for the drugs, an hour. Had none, till 9:30 in the morning. and nothing more , till she hit the other hospital. Then was after 6:00 pm before the Dr. in Lufkin saw her charts and saw that nothing had been done.
Then the treatments started.
Really sad that people like the first Dr. are practicing.
All of the Lufkin Drs. were great, but had one hell of a hump to get over, to save her.

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12-02-2007 05:17 AM  9 years agoPost 18
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Just because a few scumbags will shoot the messenger doesn't mean the message is wrong,
Tarro,
re-read what I wrote before you spout off next time,
I never said I didnt agree with the topic I am in health care, I do agree with it,
I just pointed out the fact that due to who "made" the movie, there are those who will refuse to listen on that basis alone. Whereas if someone else had made the movie, then the crappy health care system might have gotten the attention it deserved.

Side note,
Jimco glad your wife is doing better.

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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12-02-2007 05:24 AM  9 years agoPost 19
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Mikey Moore annoys me, though parts of his films are quite funny. And I speak as someone who often gets slandered on this website for being too European in outlook (I don't regard it as an insult).

Glad to hear your wife's doing well, Jimco.

K

A bit like a kite, but 500 times more expensive

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12-02-2007 05:25 AM  9 years agoPost 20
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Thanks guys, appreciate it. All will be well.

Honey, where's the check book, it's Fedex again

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