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12-01-2007 11:53 PM  9 years agoPost 1
Tsuper

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Someone gave me a T-Rex 450SA as a gift.

I am an absolute beginner and want to know which would be good to learn on, the T-rex or the Honey-Bee King 2 as a backyard/ park flyer?

Should I spend the $600 or so for battery, charger, radio equipment etc. to get the T-rex going or get a ready to fly HBK2 with everything including radio, battery and charger?

Has anyone tried a HBK2 and then ended up with the T-Rex?

Thx

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12-02-2007 12:18 AM  9 years agoPost 2
heligrom

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well, thats your call and all depends on your money situation.

if you got the cash, i would say build up the SA, but also get a sim to go with it (realflight G4 just came out!). Make sure you get the good stuff when it comes to equipment and dont skimp out on thing like the gyro and batteries.

If you dont really have the cash, grab a sim and learn the basics on there, then begin building up the SA, again with the good stuff.

T-rex 450S CF, Blade CX, Blade CP, A few planks

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12-02-2007 12:23 AM  9 years agoPost 3
RdJeff

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colorado springs, CO

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in my opinion, if you have the money, you will be far better off learning on the t rex. get some training gear and take it slow. short hovers until you can hover a whole battery pack, then lose the training gear. the t rex is a powerful machine so becarful with it

i never flew the hbk, though i do have one i just never set it up. there is no comparing the qualities and perfomance of the two. the t rex sa is an awsome heli.

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12-02-2007 01:56 AM  9 years agoPost 4
xtreme

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I agree with heligrom. I've been through pretty much all the rtf stuff out there & I'm a little sorry. Wasted money.. Build the rex with the GY 401/9650 combo for the tail, get a futaba 7C or better for the radio, hitec HS65MG for cyclic, flight power evo 25C batts & the V balancer & a triton 2 or JR. for the charger. Buy it once & save money in the long run. Heligrom what part of the island are you from.

Joe

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12-02-2007 01:58 AM  9 years agoPost 5
deafheliflyer

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Arizona

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hi

May I suggest something?

Find someone in your area that flies Helis.. Buddy box with that person for 3-5 flights then you will be ok on your own..

That worked for me, and saved me a lot in crash costs.. You should be able to hover alone after that..

just my .02 cents

Crash-Prone and overcoming it!!!

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12-02-2007 02:02 AM  9 years agoPost 6
eggmcmuffinplz

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Trex. It will get you further and will last you a long time.

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12-02-2007 02:30 AM  9 years agoPost 7
slider46

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Ocala Florida

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I follow the HBK2 site as well as the trex site, and I would like to just add my advice... The guys with the HBK2's are using the trex parts to upgrade so the heli flies better.
With that in mind, You already have the trex SA, add a DX7 radio for 215, Gy401 used for 90, servos about 60 bucks, Air thunder 2100 packs 125 bucks and a charger, dn has one for about 80.. I have 3 trex helis 2 SE's and 1 SA, I have to say they are a very good heli right out of the box, and your going to end up building it anyways.. I would save the money and build the SA and skip the HBK2 you'll be money ahead in the long run...

Tom..... No "D" flying....

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12-02-2007 05:12 AM  9 years agoPost 8
turboomni

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Do Not get caught up in product this and that,,,,GET HELP from a GURU in your area+ a SIM

Setup is everything, All my heli's can fly far better than I can pilot them

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12-02-2007 07:09 AM  9 years agoPost 9
smcbmw

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Louisville, Kentucky

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If you plan on staying in the hobby, then stay with the SA. I learned on an SA and have never looked back. GET A SIM!!!!!! This is the most important thing next to the actual heli that you can buy. It will save you hundreds of dollars !!!!

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12-02-2007 07:17 AM  9 years agoPost 10
eheliflyer

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Go with the SA. When your skills improve you can slowly upgrade it to a SEv2. You will never outgrow it.

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12-02-2007 08:09 AM  9 years agoPost 11
Heli-on

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Southern Cali, CA - USA

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I learned on a Honey Bee FP (fixed pitch) and G3.5 sim. Then I moved up to an SE V2. Then I purchased an SA to put into a scale fuselage. It was an ARF SA (not sure they sell it any other way). Anyways, the washout plate on the thing was siezed (glued to the rotor head) and when I tried to free it, I broke both washout arms. Luckily, I had purchased from LHS and they gladly swapped it for another SE V2. I wouldn't recommend the SA to anyone. You might be okay with it, but going from the SE V2, it was like taking a giant step backwards. You could check with your LHS to see if they might upgrade you.

You could also consider going a little bit cheaper and start with a Honey Bee FP (fixed pitch). You can find the RTF package for $90 online. The parts are dirt cheap, they're simpler to work on because there's only 2 swash servos, and you'll learn fundamentals without the intimidation of a CCPM's head speed. The key there being LiPos. Don't waste any effort trying to get the thing off the ground with the supplied 7-cell NiMh battery, it weighs more than twice as much as a 2-cell LiPo. Decent 7.4V LiPo's can be found on Ebay for under $10.

I still tool around with the Honey Bee FP, they're fun to fly in the house which I'd never consider doing with the T-Rex's.

-Gregg B.

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12-02-2007 12:59 PM  9 years agoPost 12
MMike

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Holland,Mi-USA

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Old Fart showed a beginner asking a similar question on the main discussion.

A coax and a sim.

Very good advice.

IMHO Learn on a coax.

MMike

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12-03-2007 06:19 AM  9 years agoPost 13
Tsuper

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Canada West

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I wish Align or Thunder Tiger made a 300 size machine, as it would be better in a garage/house to practice hovering.
It would probably swing my decision in that direction.
Even the new Blade 400 3d looks great like something I wouldn't out grow in a few months. But again 400 size.

Great advice.(I still may get the HBK2 just because its smaller).

Or is another there another good 300 size I am missing.

Thx for all recommendations. The ball is now in my court.

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12-03-2007 04:25 PM  9 years agoPost 14
Micro-Maniac

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The HBK2 is only $150 RTF so it's easy to get into it and has a belt driven tail so it doesn't share all the headaches other RTF machines do - Buy the HBK2 RTF but don't upgrade it just save that money for the Trex - You can fly the HBK2 now to get your flying fix in while you build the Trex - You can even use some of the stuff you buy for the Trex on the HBK2 like the gyro/servo and radio gear etc as you accumulate it then when you have everything for the Trex you just move the parts over from the HBK2 and now you have a Trex and got to fly all the while and still have the HBK2 for indoor etc

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12-03-2007 04:58 PM  9 years agoPost 15
Tsuper

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Micro

Yessiree, that is exactly what I think makes the most sense. I plan to order one right away.
I can't wait now to get it.

Thank you for the positive advise.

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12-03-2007 05:49 PM  9 years agoPost 16
Dubs

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Jackson NJ

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Keep the T-rex

I have both the HBK2 and the T-rex and they are both great helis. I fly the HBK2 around the yard etc because my T-rex is a bit on the scary side. I get out more in the open with the T-rex. The HBK2 belt drive holds up very well and is slightly smaller than the T-rex. You can't go wrong with the HBK2 or a T-rex, they are both real good helis. But if I had to choose one it would be the T-rex hands down. Oh and yes my HBK2 has T-rex tail parts on it to make it work better for me.

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12-03-2007 06:02 PM  9 years agoPost 17
dpcarey

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Ontario, Canada

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IMO, the best advice you have received thus far in this thread was/is "get help from others and buy a good SIM".

Regardless of which heli you decide to fly, those two suggestions will save you more money, and get you farther in this hobby than anything else. Otherwise, frustration and disappointment will become your primary concerns very quickly.

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12-03-2007 06:51 PM  9 years agoPost 18
Tsuper

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dpcarey

Totally agree. Which sim do you recommend?

I have tried Real Flight 3.5 at the LHS( 2 hours away) which seemed OK.
Maybe not as realistic as I would like, and definately not fun.(IMHO)

I am trying to convince some local friends to get heli's. But most of my help will come from you guys on runryder.com.

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12-03-2007 08:46 PM  9 years agoPost 19
coptercptn

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Mesa AZ. USA

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I too went through a Gauntlet of RTF heli's...none that would fly very good..(If at all).Loose mechanics/servos radios etc. I can fly them now..but only after getting a TREX and learning how a good one flies. I say don't waste your time with the RTF's...but even with the Rex..go with the others advice:
Get with a club or another flyer that can show you what NOT to do..and get a good Sim!!!!
Money well spent..not wasted.

Home of the "Sea Cobra".....

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12-03-2007 08:50 PM  9 years agoPost 20
dpcarey

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I don`t think there is any magic sim out there. I use 3.5 and I like it very much. I find it incredibly realistic, but I am running it on a very fast PC at the highest res the software supports. Details are maxed and my frame rates are high.

Having said that, I really don`t believe a sim needs to be virtual reality to do its` job well. Although, I am sure some will disagree. IMO, what a sim needs most is an interface(radio) just like a real RC radio, and software that lets you fly something that resembles an RC heli from the first person perspective. The computer heli should also respond with similar character and speed of an RC heli.

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