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12-01-2007 06:50 PM  9 years agoPost 1
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a seagull has an amusingly tight turning circle.

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12-01-2007 07:46 PM  9 years agoPost 2
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When Mark Smith was flying his RC seagulls at the 300 foot cliffs of Torrey Pines, the meat and bones critters would drop into formation on a model. A seagull's feather system is not designed for significant high-speed dives. With a little imagination, one could almost see the WTF look on a bird's face as it reached maximum speed in an attempted terminal velocity dive while following a model down.

The audible and visual effects of the seagull's feathers going into heavy flutter mode just before the bird aborted the game of follow-the-leader, was very entertaining. Even better was when a bird started following the model into a loop attempt. Many of them would make it to 10-20 degrees past vertical before realizing the error of their ways. Recovery was always funny, but never pretty.

Seagulls is dumb but funny critters. I can well imagine what you got to see.

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12-01-2007 08:09 PM  9 years agoPost 3
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I wasn't quite sure what to do (or not) about it.

With squirrels and bicycles they say you should keep going, and they'll get out of your way at the last second; it's if you take avoiding action that you're both likely to come to grief. Where I fly there are quite a lot of seagulls. For the most part they're not too interested, but I would hate to finish one off, not to mention the damage it would do to the heli.

BTW, loved the anecdotes about the seagulls of Torrey Pines.

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12-02-2007 04:37 PM  9 years agoPost 4
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BOIDMAN! Thanks for a very amusing tale.

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12-02-2007 08:24 PM  9 years agoPost 5
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This also translates to being on the road (I ride motorcycles so I can about critters on the road a whole bunch).

In the case of a Motorbike you can ride over anything that is lower than than your front axel. This means rabbits, frogs, birds, snakes, cats etc. are to be ignored - keep your bike heading straight, don't attempt to swerve. Brake if you can but NOT over the object cause it gets real slippery

Then we have larger items. The best here is "generally" to just brake as hard as you know how (new ABS systems help here). You have no idea what say a deer will do assuming you have enough time to do anything. A moose on the other hand will keep doing what it is doing and you are better off not hitting it. Similarly cows don't tend to stampede off highways much nor do they leap around.

For critters like skunks, you need to weight the difference between swerving as opposed to stinking I suppose.

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12-02-2007 08:38 PM  9 years agoPost 6
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For critters like skunks, you need to weight the difference between swerving as opposed to stinking I suppose.
LOL

I have a road bike with thin tyres. I don't fall off often, but when I do it doesn't take much to bring me down.

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12-03-2007 01:57 AM  9 years agoPost 7
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This is a little off subject but I was wondering if any advice out
there for the junkyard dog scenario. By this I mean what if your
running good and flying super and out of the corner of your eye
you see the biggest, baddest and meanest looking junkyard dog coming
on a run to the party. From the barking and noise it becomes clear
that your new friend is in need of counseling and hates helis.
Your flying buddies kind of start towards the dog as you grab altitude, but then they kind of freeze with that "my moma didn't
raise no fool look". As you go over your options the one clear fact
is that pouchy wants to eat your heli and you realize that when
you run out of fuel your bird is coming down and there might be some rudeness and things could get ugly. This thankfully has not happened
to me but I am kind of a what-if safety person and wonder if
anybody else has thought this situation through?

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12-03-2007 02:18 AM  9 years agoPost 8
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I would auto it down and hope the resulting carnage was not too intense, then I would become the junkyard dog as I rabidly raced towards the owner of said dog.

Now if he were coming at ME in that situation, the heli would be the last thing on my mind right up until I knew I was safe, then someone would pay big time...and it would not be me.


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12-03-2007 04:01 AM  9 years agoPost 9
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Chase the dog with the Heli. If it hits then charge the owner with letting his dog run loose. Heck, if nothing else it would be fun to see some stupid dog try to bite carbon fiber that is rotating at 1800 RPM. If you timed it right you might even get away with a small strike that you could recover from.

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12-03-2007 01:41 PM  9 years agoPost 10
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Poor Dog - I don't think a small strike would be possible, just major trauma to the pooch and heli.

If the dog wasn't interested in taking a chunk out of you, then I'd start trying to find a fenced-off area to land behind (chain link is preferable due to visibility issues!).

That way, the dog can't get the heli. However, if you'd landed the wrong side of the Area 51 fence, then you'd not be able to get your heli either!

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12-03-2007 02:05 PM  9 years agoPost 11
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Reminds me of the time

I hit a squirrel on my ZX10 going only about 30. He zigged, I zagged. At the last sencod he jumped STRAIGHT up and twisted to face me. He hit my windshield spread eagle and for just a second before he slid off he was looking right at me.

He survived and ran away and I almost crashed from laughing so hard, it was straight out of a cartoon or something. If only had my helmet cam going that day.

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12-03-2007 11:05 PM  9 years agoPost 12
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I've often wondered about this too. With my 450 I would do a landing with some sideways speed, and turn the power off when I was about a foot off the deck. I fairly frequently topple over after a poor auto; worst case is a new main shaft, flybar rod and feathering spindle. And a blade if I'm running woodies. But often I get away with no repairs at all. With a bigger model, I imagine even this is a costly exercise though.

I've been surprised how little notice most dogs take of my heli - I know my Mum's dog would thing it was just fantastic. I would hate to hurt a dog, stupid or not. Why should a dog 'know' that the shimmery rotor disk actually contains blades - he can't see the individual blades any more than we can.

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12-04-2007 12:56 AM  9 years agoPost 13
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Dogs a while ago, me and a mate were flying when a dog went screaming passed me with the owner yelling like Thor. I turned round to see my mate popping his heli in the air as the dog leapt and got within a foot of the blades. Lucky escape for both.

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