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11-30-2007 09:36 PM  9 years agoPost 1
aambrose

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You've already seen the selfless promo from Billy Bob.
It would not have mattered who it was, he was just waiting for someone to bounce back off the mention of his beloved Pro 1 and wham, he was right in there with his usual self promotional hijack of a cometitors product being duscussed on the thin premise that someone said some side comment about his poxy wares.
Looks like someone has done the very same thing. Wham, jumped right in with a self promotional hijack.

http://runryder.com/helicopter/t257508p1/
And some of you here should be backing me up on this.
*crickets chirping*

I'll let Mark close this thread if he so chooses rather than doing it myself thus not allowing anyone to comment. Thanks for the post though. Now we all know you a little better. You're smart and filthy rich and we're all stupid peons.


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11-30-2007 09:43 PM  9 years agoPost 2
rerazor

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I'm going with "By-Pole-Errr"

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11-30-2007 09:51 PM  9 years agoPost 3
kiwidave1

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I'm going with "By-Pole-Errr"
LMAO
mate! That's Bloody Funny.

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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11-30-2007 09:55 PM  9 years agoPost 4
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The simple difference here AF boy, is

I am not a competitor of Kimberleys.
JO is

I also have spoken to Kimberley on many occasions and we have a fairly good realtionship.
JO is universally hated.

So obviously JO pops his ugly pimple up in a thread on Kimberleys gear, it is not to say hello or share images of gear.

It is to upsell his gear off the post, same as always, no shame.

Now go do some more searching till you fingers fall off.

See what other lame idiocy you can come up with that I can hose down for you as I just did.

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11-30-2007 09:57 PM  9 years agoPost 5
FLAP

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That's the first post I have ever seen that insulted everyone on the forum. Maybe I've been taking the wrong approach with my customers.

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11-30-2007 11:21 PM  9 years agoPost 6
MPA

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That's the first post I have ever seen that insulted everyone on the forum. Maybe I've been taking the wrong approach with my customers.
Maybe so.
Seems to work well for someone else here we all know.
Rude and obtuse as he is, he seems to sell a lot.

Then again maybe you are refering to me.
In that case, you are not my customer nor is anyone else in here.
Even if they wanted to be
The short time the gear was available last month has come and gone and unlikely to be the case again for a long time..
There is the quick, and the dead.

Besides that it is a fact that any sales from here is limited to gear under 10K
The gear I make and sell is 15 to 20 K range.
The comparable 15 to 20 K system I compete with, none of you own.
No way you guys spend over 10K on any gear anytime for RC AP

Happy trails.

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11-30-2007 11:55 PM  9 years agoPost 7
46Taylorcraft

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Damn...... I've been doing my best to stay out of this kind of crap if at all possible but I gotta chime in on something here
Looks like someone has done the very same thing. Wham, jumped right in with a self promotional hijack.
I looked at the thread in question and I just don't see it as a thread hijack. Kima asked about color of anodizing his Helicopter camera mounts and MPA responded with pics that he does his in black for his Polecam mounts.

Apples and Oranges.

The thread never got off topic to the level the PhotoHigher topic did. I suspect it was closed because it was an unsolicited post and we all know how Ryder feels about that.

On the other hand, JO came in guns blazing on the other thread and spouted off about his Helicoptercamera mounts (read... direct competition) and his awards and all about him him him.

I was shocked to not have seen him post up his Ford GT40 pics and Mustang, Hummer, wrecked Dodge, aluminum car hauler trailers, hovercrafts, boats and whatever else his company buys and drives that most of us could care less about.

Sure... from time to time we all have posted up irrelevant stuff but someone here makes is a habit of posting up crap about how many awards he has won and how little money others have compared to him. and yada yada yada.

Why the hell is it that when it comes to camera mounts there is always this crap slinging? Seriously... why is it?

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11-30-2007 11:59 PM  9 years agoPost 8
Smithprod

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In that case, you are not my customer nor is anyone else in here.
Then why are you here wasting everybody's time?? This is an RC helicopter forum so why don't you move on to where ever these 20K clients of yours hang out??? Don't let the door hit you in the a@# on the way out!

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12-01-2007 12:06 AM  9 years agoPost 9
MPA

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Send in the clowns

smithy-give-it-a-prod.
Another AF peon come to put his sticky paws on the thread and show his support for his old chum.
You crawler.
Hope you're wearing your brown shoes smithy

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12-01-2007 12:15 AM  9 years agoPost 10
iflybyu77

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Oh yeah? Well!! Uh, hmmm... wait. I don't care.

Snore............

MPA, chill bro.

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12-01-2007 12:16 AM  9 years agoPost 11
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JO came in guns blazing on the other thread and spouted off about his Helicoptercamera mounts (read... direct competition) and his awards and all about him him him.
I was shocked to not have seen him post up his Ford GT40 pics and Mustang, Hummer, wrecked Dodge, aluminum car hauler trailers, hovercrafts, boats and whatever else his company buys and drives that most of us could care less about.
Nice post. That picture was shameless promo.

On a side note...
X XX XXX XXXX XXXXX

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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12-01-2007 12:28 AM  9 years agoPost 12
aambrose

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Besides that it is a fact that any sales from here is limited to gear under 10K
The gear I make and sell is 15 to 20 K range.
The comparable 15 to 20 K system I compete with, none of you own.
No way you guys spend over 10K on any gear anytime for RC AP
blah blah blah blah......it's the same with you every time. It's all about you and how much money you make and how you are heads and shoulders above the rest of us and how what we do is nothing compared to what you do. If we can't afford your gear and we're about to be abolished because of those who use your gear, then why are you even wasting your time talking to us peons? If you're better than us, then move on. Go hang out with your elite friends and let us "continue to drive ourselves into extinction". Sadly I think it makes you feel good to belittle others.
Now go do some more searching till you fingers fall off.
I really didnt have to search much at all. Anyone can click on your ID and read all your posts and see for themselves how you contribute. I thought the post I referenced was disrespectful to Kimberley at the time you made it, but I didnt say anything then. It wasnt until you started whining about John's post that I remembered yours. So what if you're not a competitor of Kimberley's. You seem to feel it's perfectly OK to plug your gear in a thread HE started concerning HIS gear.
See what other lame idiocy you can come up with that I can hose down for you as I just did.
Hosed it right down...yup. Nice job.
AF boy
If you're referring to me then that's the funniest thing you've ever said. I have no affiliation with AF except for the fact that I use a Pro1 and a GSR. John and I have a business relationship...period. If that makes me an "AF boy" then call it what you want. So what if a lot of people don't like John. What's your point? The last time I looked, he was a paying sponsor on this forum and does contribute to the AP community and has for a few years now. From reading your recent rants, I think someone else has "no shame".
I looked at the thread in question and I just don't see it as a thread hijack. Kima asked about color of anodizing his Helicopter camera mounts and MPA responded with pics that he does his in black for his Polecam mounts.

Apples and Oranges.
Comparing mounts and poles yeah, but throwing your product up for all to see when the question was about anodizing colors? I saw it as a shameless plug. I thought you had to pay to advertise on RR?
Why the hell is it that when it comes to camera mounts there is always this crap slinging? Seriously... why is it?
One word...... egos.
Snore............
Yeah, I usually snore through these posts too but it seems Dave has a bone to pick with me.
smithy-give-it-a-prod.
Another AF peon come to put his sticky paws on the thread and show his support for his old chum.
You crawler.
Hope your wearing your brown shoes smithy
OK, now everyone knows your true colors.

Dave, let's face it, you are better than all of us. You shouldnt waste your time here.


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12-01-2007 12:30 AM  9 years agoPost 13
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iflybyu77, no malice intend to you, but don't pretend you have no idea what this is all about.
Yeah, we know, he is a home town boy and you feel the urge to defend him.
His form is notorious, you know it.
I know a guy who lives up the road from me, he is hated by everyone.
Why defend it just because he lives up the road from you, it just brings you down to the same level.

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12-01-2007 12:32 AM  9 years agoPost 14
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What was that all about Lamebrose.

Looked like digital noise to me.

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12-01-2007 12:32 AM  9 years agoPost 15
classic

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So did anyone hear about Rodney King getting shot a few days ago?

I guess we all CAN'T get along!

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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12-01-2007 12:39 AM  9 years agoPost 16
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Wait wait! stop posting while I go get some more popcorn.

Juan Crane

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12-01-2007 12:54 AM  9 years agoPost 17
kiwidave1

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No way you guys spend over 10K on any gear anytime for RC AP
ahhh god, I am crying I am laughing so much...or maybe I am crying cos I wish that post was true.

David

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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12-01-2007 12:55 AM  9 years agoPost 18
iflybyu77

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iflybyu77, no malice intend to you, but don't pretend you have no idea what this is all about.
Yeah, we know, he is a home town boy and you feel the urge to defend him.
His form is notorious, you know it.
I know a guy who lives up the road from me, he is hated by everyone.
Why defend it just because he lives up the road from you, it just brings you down to the same level.
Thanks. I do fine for myself. I've owned an AF mount, own one of DJ's gimbals (on my custom mount), and an HCS gimbal. I've had my share of feelings about some business dealings with some in this business. I'm all for giving business to the businessman who provides the best product and treats me with respect. Some haven't treated me so well - and THAT is a PERSONAL experience of my own when buying a product. No hearsay in that statement.

If it takes more than two or three paragraphs to explain yourself, you might be talking to yourself, or scaring off potential customers. Don't alienate ME just because you don't know my experience or how I've made AP successful for me. Thanks.

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12-01-2007 12:56 AM  9 years agoPost 19
aambrose

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Dave you are so clever with the words. I'm impressed and I bet you impress your elite friends like that all the time too. I bet you're great at Scrabble!
Yeah, we know, he is a home town boy and you feel the urge to defend him.
I know a guy who lives up the road from me, he is hated by everyone.
Hometown boy? Hmmmm....let's see, he lives at least 3 hours from me and I've met him maybe 4 times. Oh wait a second. I forgot we went to school together, hang out on weekends, race cars together, talk on the phone at least 3 times a day, our wives share recipes, and I'm on AF's payroll. For cryin' out loud, you're nuts and this all goes to show you have no clue what you're talking about.
Why defend it just because he lives up the road from you, it just brings you down to the same level.
I'm not defending anyone but myself. It all started with Kimberley's mounts and me saying I couldn't justify the money when the mount we use does the job for us right now. I even complimented Kimberley on the new mount and actually said positive things about him and his product. It was you who pulled all the AF drama into this because you obviously don't like AF and want to spew your thoughts about them.
Looked like digital noise to me.
"Peon talk" tends to do that to the elite.
His form is notorious, you know it.
Explain that one to me Dave. I'm lame ya know.


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12-01-2007 12:58 AM  9 years agoPost 20
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No way you guys spend over 10K on any gear anytime for RC AP
ahhh god, I am crying I am laughing so much...or maybe I am crying cos I wish that post was true.

David
I'm pretty sure just one of my setups was about $7k. A lot of things have happened since that purchase which was nearly 3 years ago.

True, 3 years ago I didn't think I'd spend any more than that. Lots of guys who see this forum think "yeah! I'm gonna make money with my toy helicopter!" I've seen them come and go (locally even). If we all had a better idea how much we would need to spend to do it RIGHT, we might have decided against this a long time ago!!

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