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11-30-2007 06:16 PM  9 years agoPost 1
Muse Rocker

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when i move my roll it gives pitch and when i give pitch it gives collective but when i move collective i'ts allrigth someone can help me? (is the cylock an option)
i have MX-16 with towerpro Ms 995 i think it are the servo's ( or the eccpm mixing ing the MX-16)

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11-30-2007 06:44 PM  9 years agoPost 2
swasey1982

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how strong are those servos ? Specs ?

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11-30-2007 09:12 PM  9 years agoPost 3
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11-30-2007 09:54 PM  9 years agoPost 4
helimatt

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Not sure with the MX-16, but sounds generally like the servo mixing is not set up correctly. If the servos are plugged into the correct receiver ports, moving the cyclic stick in roll should not result in pitch movement (the rear or elevator servo should not move). If it is, then you need to change where the servos are plugged in. Which ever two servos move, those receiver ports are for aileron and pitch servos on the CCPM setup.

Once that is correct, then move the collective; stick moving up should make the swash move up only. if it rolls or tilts, one or more servos might need to be reversed. iF it moves down but stays level, then the SWASH percentage on the transmitter can be set from a positive number to negative or vice-versa. That is, if the tramsitter is like the Futaba or JR that I'm familiar with.

Servo type won't really affect which way the swash moves or tilts, except that they should all three be the same type with the same length arms.

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12-01-2007 12:38 PM  9 years agoPost 5
Muse Rocker

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the MX-16 is actually a bit off a remake of the DX-7 (without 2.4 ghz off course.)

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12-01-2007 12:49 PM  9 years agoPost 6
Jafa

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when i move my roll it gives pitch
and when i give pitch it gives collective
but when i move collective i'ts allrigth someone can help me?
Pitch and collective are one in the same thing

Do a search
CCPM setup has been detailed in numerous threads
including a video "how to"


Protos | Logo 400 & 500 | Sceadu Evo | Freya Evo | Trex600N | Avant FX

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12-01-2007 01:11 PM  9 years agoPost 7
Muse Rocker

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you need to know it's very small amount it gives but when i move it faster it gives more

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12-01-2007 02:52 PM  9 years agoPost 8
helimatt

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Jafa, I thought when he used the term "pitch" he was referring to "elevator" cyclic (pitch is more accurate term when referring to a helicopter anyway). So roll, pitch on cyclic, then collective.

Anyhow Muse Rocker, this is pretty hard to decifer so far. Still, if the radio is DX-7 like, then there are threads about setting up the CCPM helis with DX-7. Lots of good info here- hate to say it but if you haven't already, search function and see if a little reading clears it up for you. If you're still stuck, we'll keep trying to help!

If the swash is moving a little, and more when you give it more (more collective?)= might be tight linkages or binding as well?

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12-02-2007 06:22 PM  9 years agoPost 9
Muse Rocker

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better explanation:when i move the rollstick slow it gives a small amount of pitch on the swash but when i move the stick faster it gives more pitch input. The same with pitch but only then it gives collective.
When i give collective it's perfect
it has to be the roll servo's you can see that very clearly

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12-03-2007 08:55 AM  9 years agoPost 10
Jafa

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Jafa, I thought when he used the term "pitch" he was referring to "elevator" cyclic (pitch is more accurate term when referring to a helicopter anyway). So roll, pitch on cyclic, then collective.
It's best not to assume

I appreciate there is a language issue, but it's going to be difficult to assist him when he's not using clear terminology

Muse Rocker:

Your last post is even less clear

There is nothing you can do about the difference between moving the sticks slow or fast - so just ignore that

Best to use only one term to mean swash up/down - pitch or collective

If you mean how far the swash leans - use the term lean or angle

If you move the aileron stick and can see the swash going up/down that is aileron to collective interaction

If you move the elevator stick and can see the swash going up/down that is elevator to collective interaction

The Cyclock does have specific settings to deal with those problems (and more)

If you don't use a Cyclock all you can do is:

-use subtrim on the elevator, aileron and collective to level the swash at middle collective
-set +ATV settings on the elevator, aileron and collective to level the swash at full positive collective
-set -ATV settings on the elevator, aileron and collective to level the swash at full negative collective

After that there is nothing more you can do - what you get is all you can get (you could try a different set of new servos however)


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12-03-2007 07:45 PM  9 years agoPost 11
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i really begin to hate runryder.

all by all it's the transmitter or the roll servo's i'm not gonna buy a cyclock because it's to expensive. My dead gonna be a freak when he hear's the price+ jaffa i can't tell it better. will buy new servo's later because these s*cks i'm so depressive at the moment i can even smack my new baby on the floor.

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