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11-30-2007 06:56 PM  10 years agoPost 41
SSN Pru

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If it ain't broken, don't fix it
Teh government needs to learn this lesson. They seem to think they can improve on everything or make everythign idiot proof...

I say: how about educating the idiots a bit better?

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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11-30-2007 06:59 PM  10 years agoPost 42
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I say: how about educating the idiots a bit better?
No matter how hard you try it cant be done with some of them.
Like the cable guy says,"you cant fix stupid".

YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE..IF YOU LIVE IT RIGHT THATS ALL YOU NEED

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11-30-2007 07:01 PM  10 years agoPost 43
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All Aircraft Tires are filled with dry nitrogen.....
Really?

-Mark

There, their and they're. It's really that simple.

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11-30-2007 07:18 PM  10 years agoPost 44
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yeah, really?

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11-30-2007 07:30 PM  10 years agoPost 45
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Low altitude planes use regualar air. Turboprops and better use Nitrogen:

wow you have good eyes to see that. Ever consider that tires are designed to run over a "pressure range" and not at one pressure? Is your "in-your-mind" pressure sensor calibrated correctly?
Well, it doesn't take a frakking genius to see that a tire that looks like this is low on air:

and yes, this is what I was refering to seeing 5 times each trip to work.
I agree that drivers here are woefully ignorant of driving and maintenance. It's a lot easier - and cheaper - for .gov to just require idiot lights than to make all (voting) drivers spend some $ and time to get educated.

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11-30-2007 07:44 PM  10 years agoPost 46
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Now lets ask this question:

idiot lights for low pressure is happening now.

What happens when that light comes on? will it shut off your ignition until you put air into the tires? I know people drive around with their check engine lights on and just ignore them...

This light won't be any different and the CEL is arguably just as if not more important than the low pressure idiot light...

Just a thought

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11-30-2007 10:15 PM  10 years agoPost 47
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Yes alot of people drive with there ck engine light on now whats up with that does it mean the car is going to flip over if i keep on driven it i think not is it on because of the emmisions are out of wack and i will pollute the air more and waste gas now the tpm light comming on could save my life.

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11-30-2007 10:16 PM  10 years agoPost 48
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I can't believe how concerned people are with their tire pressure. You guys are funny.

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12-01-2007 12:45 AM  10 years agoPost 49
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Charge

Yes alot of people drive with there ck engine light on now whats up with that does it mean the car is going to flip over if i keep on driven it i think not is it on because of the emmisions are out of wack and i will pollute the air more and waste gas now the tpm light comming on could save my life.
While you were busy being a smartass, you completely failed to catch my point.

I'll be blunt this time:

People DO NOT TEND TO HEED DASH WARNING LIGHTS

Easy wasn't it?

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12-01-2007 12:46 AM  10 years agoPost 50
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And And And

The fact that a tire is low on air does not mean a roll over is imminent.

That combined with other factors could though

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12-01-2007 01:51 AM  10 years agoPost 51
skydude

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Boeing started putting nitrogen in the tires back in the early 80's.

It was to reduce the available oxygen in the wheel wells in the event of a fire.

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12-01-2007 05:08 AM  10 years agoPost 52
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I'm not contraindicating you here UMDPRU, we both agree there are a lot of dumbasses out there.
I frequent forums for the Tacoma. Every few days there is a post on 'my TPMS light is on, how do I make it go off?" and "which wire do I cut to get rid of the constant TPMS light?" I'd say 50% of car owners that have TPMS installed don't know of it's existence and what to do if the light comes on.
Like I said it's easier to make a light mandatory than education and inconveniencing the voting public. The automakers are happy too because of the reduced liability - "the rolled over car had TPMS and the light was on so the accident was not our fault".

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12-01-2007 01:28 PM  10 years agoPost 53
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its all about mony now! nobody wants to spend it who has the answers.if the ck engine light comes on because something is out of wack i whould # 1 want to know what it is.# 2 i whould want to have it fixed most likely it whould save me mony. T.P.M.S tell me when my tire is soft will hopefully prevent a tire blowout.yearly state inspection in Vt on all cars 96 and newer will automaticaly fail the inspection if the ck engine light is on.hopefully people will take these lights more seriously.which i think should be the real point

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12-01-2007 02:00 PM  10 years agoPost 54
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read this thread with interest

I used to work for a company called bartec and I was responsible for the design and software of a aftermarket tpms reader.

I was of the understanding that nitorgen was intorduced by the garages simple because they were sick of dealing with folks coming in saying there was something wrong with the tpms system when it was in fact due to temperature.
In fact one of the only standard cars in the uk (a renault) to have them issued as standard stopped doing so when they got lots of complaints about the tpms warning coming on due to temperature vairation.

As for folk ignoring tpms warning lights I understand some car manufactures have been discssing putting the car in limp mode until its sorted (One of the only ones I have heard about doing it so far is the lexus sc - but since I don't have one I may be wrong)

The equipment I designed used to force the tpms in the tire to respond so we could get information from it like battery status. etc

You would be surprised how many european companies are involved in tpms even though there is no requirement in euroland to have them (its coming but not yet).

Tpms was brought in due to a lawsuit involving an suv rolling over when a tire was low and the owner suing the manufacture on a safety point but its now being promoted by save the planet types

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12-01-2007 08:59 PM  10 years agoPost 55
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one reason aircraft tires use nitrogen is they hold 200psi. filling to 200# with nirtogen is easy with 2000# bottle pressure.

using a air compressor to 250 # and removing the water with a air dryer is a little more slower.

it looks easyer to drag out a nitrogen bottle to fill a tier.

i have filled my work truck tiers with nirtogen and co2, because i carry the bottle and use them for work.

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12-01-2007 11:55 PM  10 years agoPost 56
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what are tires ? speak english its tyres them black round rubber things

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12-02-2007 12:01 AM  10 years agoPost 57
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give me a chance its bad enough typing slowly and loudly saying what i am typing, but you have to do that to give these johnny foreigners a chance.

As for the incorrect spelling well i guess it just shows i have gone native and for that I am deeply ashamed.

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12-02-2007 10:10 AM  10 years agoPost 58
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what are tires ? speak english its tyres them black round rubber things
In the southeast it's TARS.

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12-02-2007 06:27 PM  10 years agoPost 59
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In the southeast it's TARS.
Is that 'cos they is black'n sticky?

(I can just see"boss hogg" chuntering about "them Luke boys burnin' tham tars" ) LOL

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