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11-30-2007 02:05 PM  10 years agoPost 21
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Most people aren't smart enough.
I had a car come in the shop with 14lbs of air in the tires.

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11-30-2007 02:06 PM  10 years agoPost 22
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Then they shouldnt be owning a vehicle if they aren't smart enough to read the manual and keep the tire pressure's at the right level.

The real problem is that the owners are too lazy to check these things...

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11-30-2007 02:08 PM  10 years agoPost 23
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Then they shouldnt be owning a vehicle if they aren't smart enough to read the manual and keep the tire pressure's at the right level.

The real problem is that the owners are too lazy to check these things
Doesn't really matter how the tires get low,they just do.Glad you dont mind driving on the road with unsafe cars around you,thats your choice.

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11-30-2007 02:09 PM  10 years agoPost 24
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Excuse my ignorance but is Tire pressure really that big of an issue that the gov't has to step in to mandate tire pressure monitors
Actually yes. I commute 12 miles to work everyday. On average I see at least 5 cars/trucks/SUVs with almost flat tires driving at 60+ mph. Not counting the vehicles with somewhat underinflated tires. So unfortunatly the american driver is that stupid and .gov has to babysit.

Anyway, I would offer the Nitro noting the benefits for the LTP sensors, corrosion reduction and the coolness factor.

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11-30-2007 02:12 PM  10 years agoPost 25
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I have to add air to my tires every couple weeks as the temp drops (still in WI for one more month) due to the low pressure warning light. It sure does let you know exactly how much of a difference temp makes when they are filled with air. I'd pay for nitrogen when I have this set replaced.

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11-30-2007 02:16 PM  10 years agoPost 26
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Its not only a safety issue but tires wear out a lot faster with low air pressure. We had idiot lights for oil pressure and engine temp,it looks like one is needed for tire pressure for mentally challenged people.

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11-30-2007 02:17 PM  10 years agoPost 27
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I commute 12 miles to work everyday. On average I see at least 5 cars/trucks/SUVs with almost flat tires driving at 60+ mph.
wow you have good eyes to see that. Ever consider that tires are designed to run over a "pressure range" and not at one pressure? Is your "in-your-mind" pressure sensor calibrated correctly?
corrosion reduction...
Yeah, we have a serious corrosion problem occuring with the majority of wheels. wheres your data?
...and the coolness factor.
I like this one. I want to be forced by big brother to pay more for my next car because they think it's cool to use nitrogen in my tires.

I can't wait to start pimpin my nitrogen filled tires now...

air has worked for more than a century. why is it now bad?

Drivers need to wake up and maintain their vehicles in the proper fassion.

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11-30-2007 02:40 PM  10 years agoPost 28
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Aluminum rims don't corrode like they will with regular air versus nitrogen. If you have an old vehicle with aluminum rims, you might notice it around the beads and valve stem, and the tire will likely not hold pressure for a long time. However, most people don't have their vehicles long enough these days to worry about it.

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11-30-2007 02:44 PM  10 years agoPost 29
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I agree to an extent

umdpru
I agree that people need to take responsibility for their own actions. I have been in the business 20 years now and it has only gotten worse. It amazes me that people are in total bliss if they do not know what is going on but the second you try to help them with a warning light all of a sudden it is somebody elses fault. I can not tell you the number of times I have had to discuss tire wear due to under inflation or how a road hazard is not a defect in a tire but then it is like you said, people need to take more responsibility. Any IDIOT can get a drivers license which is a shame. Oh by the way any IDIOT can be defined as anything from a drug dealer to a doctor or lawyer. Education does not make up for a lack of common sense which is the real issue.

Thank Ford and Firestone for the pressure warning systems. The whole tire debacle was the issue.

Your are right that tires run in a pressure range but the manufacturers tend to require the pressure to be lower to improve ride quality. That was part of the Ford issue.

As pressure goes down in the tire the heat build up increases due to the flexing of the sidewalls. That flexing over time and the heat eventually causes the tire to fail. Takes quite a few miles but it will do it. Interestingly you do not have to track a vehicle to get heat build up. Just going down the road at highway speed will affect pressure at least 3 psi. Just remember that it is not to big of a deal but this started with should a dealer sell nitrogen. That 2-3 psi is the difference between that light coming on and going off which then causes a customer headache since the people not smart enough to check the pressure in their tires are surely not smart enough to put air in them. That means a trip to a garage and charge to air up a tire. Ask people to get into their wallet and they have a fit. Seen it too many times.

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11-30-2007 02:51 PM  10 years agoPost 30
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However, most people don't have their vehicles long enough these days to worry about it.
Biiiinnnggoooo...

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11-30-2007 02:54 PM  10 years agoPost 31
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If people don't like to pay someone to fill up their tires, then perhaps they should take 5 minutes out of their busy lives to learn an important lesson wrt vehicle safety?

Makes too much sense in my mind.

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11-30-2007 04:25 PM  10 years agoPost 32
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And when was the last time you ck your tire presure the averge tire lose 2-3 lbs every 30 days in normal weather?.

A positive outlook is all that is required

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11-30-2007 04:34 PM  10 years agoPost 33
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And when was the last time you ck your tire presure the averge tire lose 2-3 lbs every 30 days in normal weather?.
If you are loosing that much pressure in such a short time, then i suggest you check your tire for leaks. the only time I find I need to add air to my tires is if it's leaking or when the cold weather comes...

Are you sure that 2-3lbs is for a tire in normal use or is it for a vehicle in storage?

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11-30-2007 05:44 PM  10 years agoPost 34
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how many people have a tire gage?

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11-30-2007 05:50 PM  10 years agoPost 35
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probably not a lot but considering that you can get one for a few bucks at most local auto stores for a few dollars, thats really not an excuse.

Also, most gas/service stations that provide air also have an integrated pressure gauge in the filling device...

IMAO, not having a tire pressure gauge in your car is like not having a spare or a lug nut wrench or jack.

I think it's irresponsible for drivers to not periodically check their pressure much the same way that not changing your tires when they are worn out would be irresponsible...

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11-30-2007 05:52 PM  10 years agoPost 36
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I have a 2006 Suburban with the tire pressure monitors, my pressures change with temp as much as 3-4 degs. On the way to West Palm the other day i got a tire alarm and had a nail in my right rear tire, the next town i got to fixed it BEFORE it went flat and ruined the tire. I like it. Now that it's cooler here in Fla i had to increase the pressure to get back to nominal pressure. I bought a digital tire guage at Sears for $20 and use it to check the accuracy of my on board sensors and they are dead on. Ron

Please cancel my clearance, I have the field in sight. Got my RW Turbine Waiver, need lottery!

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11-30-2007 05:55 PM  10 years agoPost 37
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hotwings,

Tire pressure monitors are a good idea for incidents like that. They are not a good idea to replace common sense and responsibility wrt operating a motor vehicle...

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11-30-2007 05:58 PM  10 years agoPost 38
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How is Detroit going to get rid of their smog filled air if we go to Nitrogen. They put it in all the tires leaving town. Ha

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11-30-2007 06:02 PM  10 years agoPost 39
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maybe we should fill tiers with methane gas to cut down on that pesky global worming thing.

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11-30-2007 06:55 PM  10 years agoPost 40
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I use them in all my road bikes as do most of the guys I ride with.

As for cars/trucks. Haven't given it any thought.

Standard air does the job. If it ain't broken, don't fix it.

... But honey it was only $$$

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