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12-03-2007 05:44 AM  10 years agoPost 61
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Bye the way, what in the world qualifies Julie Annie, to run for President.???
How about :
The economy of New York City is one of the largest regional economies in the United States. The city is a global center for business and commerce. It is one of the leading financial cities of the world and a premier headquarters location for leading global financial services companies.[1]

The financial, insurance, and real estate industries form the basis of New York's economy. The city is also the most important center for mass media, journalism and publishing in the United States, and is the preeminent arts center in the country. Medical research, technology, and fashion are also significant sectors. Manufacturing, although declining, remains consequential.

The city's stock exchanges are the most important in the United States. The New York Stock Exchange is by far the largest stock exchange in the world by market capitalization of listed companies. The NASDAQ has the most companies listed and is third largest in the world by market capitalization of listed companies, although since the NASDAQ is an entirely electronic exchange, its trading does not take place physically in New York City. Many international corporations are headquartered in the city, including more Fortune 500 companies than any other city.

New York City is a global hub of international business and commerce and is one of three "command centers" for the world economy (along with London and Tokyo).[2] The city is a major center for finance, insurance, real estate, media and the arts in the United States. The New York metropolitan area had an estimated gross metropolitan product of $952.6 billion in 2005, the largest regional economy in the United States.
Are you trying to misspell those words?
Ron: Interesting bit from CNN
Yes, did you check at - 1:34 When they say he, "Looks like he does not have any hope of becoming the republican nominee"

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12-03-2007 03:40 PM  10 years agoPost 62
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So Ron: Are you saying that Rudy Makes all this happen? I thought the mayor was more concerned with daily operation of the city, as in water , sewer electric, and passing a few rules at council meetings.
didn.t know that he had hands on control of the success or failure of the markets and overall business activities.

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12-03-2007 05:16 PM  10 years agoPost 63
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So Ron: Are you saying that Rudy Makes all this happen?
Makes it all happen? No, oversees it yes. Makes rules that affect it, yes.
I thought the mayor was more concerned with daily operation of the city, as in water , sewer electric, and passing a few rules at council meetings.
Yes, but in one of the largest cities in the world. What qualification does Paul have? Whats the largest organization he has run?
didn.t know that he had hands on control of the success or failure of the markets and overall business activities.
I don't think the President has direct control either. The Fed is separate and it controls the interest rates. But passing tax laws will have an effect on both the city and the country. Mandating certain programs has an effect as well.

The best "training" to be President IMO is being Governor of a large state. But NY city's economy is larger than more than half the states.

I don't really feel good about Rudy personally. I DO think he would be better than Hillary. Rudy gives lip service to the 2nd, but his background seems to go against him. But Hillary is clearly against the 2nd. And I think that it is one of the founding principals.

Abortion...I don't personally care. I like Pauls stance that it should be decided by the States. Maybe thats not realistic however due to the scope.

The debt...We need to tackle the debt. No doubt about it. There are only two ways to get a budget under control....Spend less and take more in.

Spending less is easier.

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12-03-2007 05:35 PM  10 years agoPost 64
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I've stayed out for awhile but want to throw my opinion out there.

Ron Paul is the only true conservative that has a record to back it up IMO and I like his social and economic views for sure. But what scares me though, is his isolationist view of the world. While that is a nice thought, like it or not, we live in a global economy. No matter how much we might try to keep out of someone else's affairs, it is naive to think just our day to day trading of goods and services with other countries, won't piss off the wrong person or group, and invite another terrorist attack. You can't have it both ways. Especially, in this economy, when we depend so much on foreign oil and other goods and services, just to live our day to day lives.

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12-03-2007 06:59 PM  10 years agoPost 65
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Ron Paul is the only true conservative that has a record to back it up IMO
Why do I keep hearing that? Duncan Hunter and Fred Thompson both have more Conservative records than Ron Paul. And they dont come off as some crazy old coot screaming about conspiracies. Ron Paul harps about immigration and border security, and while he has made a valiant effort hasnt really done much about it other than tslk. Duncan Hunter got funding and built the only secure border fence that currently exists.

I was excited about Fred Thompson when he announced, not so much now. His campaign has transitioned to a more typical Washington insiders campaign. So looks like my man is Duncan Hunter. A real Conservative who has a track record of action and experience. I dont agree with him on every single issue, but the ones I dont likely wont be issues that he has to deal with, so I dont care.

http://www.gohunter08.com/

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12-03-2007 07:07 PM  10 years agoPost 66
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Chris: look up some voting records. Then you won't be so confused.

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12-03-2007 07:57 PM  10 years agoPost 67
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Ron: 10 terms in Congress, should be a starting point. And no ties to the mob.

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12-03-2007 08:30 PM  10 years agoPost 68
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I have, have followed Duncan Hunter a lot lately and Fred was a Senator for my home state. So I am well aware of all of their voting records.

And 10 years in Congress yet he isnt bought and paid for like everyone else? Wonder how he has managed to pull that one off

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12-03-2007 09:00 PM  10 years agoPost 69
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Ever consider simple old "Honesty" and Pride. After all he was elected to look out for his district, and thats what he has done.

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12-03-2007 09:30 PM  10 years agoPost 70
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Chris,

I was referring to Paul vs. Guiliani, Romney and McCain. I know Hunter and Thompson both are hard conservatives as well. My point was more in line with the direct discussion towards the front runners (which I don't consider Thompson is anymore) vs. Paul.

If you want to bring the other candidates in, sure I would and probably will vote for Hunter over the other top candidates. Only problem, he really doesn't have a shot at this one. What will probably happen, is one of the more moderate republicans will win the nomination, and choose a conservative running mate to try and garner more appeal. I don't know, we'll see.

Either way, I don't like my choices on the republican ticket b/c it will most likely be Guliani vs. Hillary or Obama. If Paul runs as a third party, it will have the Ross Perot affect and we'll end up with Hillary.

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12-03-2007 09:56 PM  10 years agoPost 71
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Ron: 10 terms in Congress, should be a starting point.
So what? You think that makes him different that anyone else that has been in Congress? You didn't answer the question I asked.

What is the largest organization he has run?

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12-03-2007 10:05 PM  10 years agoPost 72
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I dont think it will even be Guiliani. And I agree, with the last minute changes he made to his campaign staff and some of the bone-headed things they have done, in addition to a weak start I dont think he is either. Which is a shame. Rudy isnt even moderate enough to get the nimination I dont think, much less conservative enough.

I think hunter could get it if he had a better campaign manager. One of the talk radio stations here has been trying to get him on for months, and havent even been able to speak with his campaign manager to try and work it out. I think if conservatives and even moderate republicans would quit playing the match game he would have a shot. Problem is most people are more worried about who they are going to have to run against. My favorite quote about that, vote your conscience in the primary and be more pragmatic in the general election.

And I have heard several people now throw out Steve Forbes as a strong Republican contender once everything washes out. I dont see how but will be interesting to see if it transpires. And Mike Huckabee is coming on pretty strong, which scares me. We will end up with another pseudo-conservative in the WH making a muck of everything.

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12-03-2007 10:31 PM  10 years agoPost 73
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Ron: He is a successful Doctor, in addition to Congress. Helping to run the government for 10 terms , should say something about him. Read his voting record.

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12-03-2007 11:06 PM  10 years agoPost 74
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Ron: He is a successful Doctor
Big deal, Rudy is a successful business man.
Hillary, Obama, Thompson, McCain, Biden are all successful Senators.
Romney, Huckabee, and Richardson are successful Governors.
Helping to run the government for 10 terms , should say something about him
Big deal he has been in Congress for 10 terms. You keep claiming he is different, but all you can do to show support is to say he has been in the system 10 times. Several other candidates have been elected and re elected.

And you STILL have not answered the question:

What is the largest organization he has run?

RUN, not been a part of.
Read his voting record.
I have read his and others. I know that he is considered by most to be too extreme for the parties nomination. You keep ignoring that he only has 5% of the REGISTERED republicans support.

You keep claiming how great he is, but you have not given any reasons you think he is so great. And you still have not answered the question I asked.

If the best you can do is "He has been in Congress 10 times"...Well several other candidates have been there longer.

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12-04-2007 12:19 AM  10 years agoPost 75
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Ron: What is this, a pissing contest. You seem to have a problem. Give me the source of your 5% BS figure. Also, I don't remember where you had to be a registered republican to vote for a democrat. or vice-versa.
You are starting to sound like a front man for Julie Annie.
If you are so sold on his ass, go start a thread.
As far as running something, you think Julie ran New York City, I bet city council had something to do with it. while Rudy occupied a chair in an office, while waiting for the next Cross Dressing Party, or a meeting with a Mafia Don.
Perhaps going out with his "Police Commissioner" for a little sexual tryst. Commonly called a "Nooner"
Ron Paul for President, and You check his record. Its all available.
Almost forgot. Perhaps discussing the WTC, with his buddy, Larry Silverstein.

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12-04-2007 12:42 AM  10 years agoPost 76
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Here Ron: This is some of what he runs. http://dailypaul.com/node/10738
He runs the organization that is scarring the hell out of the established political machine.
Really got a handle on those"Internet Types" as you call em.

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12-04-2007 01:08 AM  10 years agoPost 77
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Ron: What is this, a pissing contest.
No, its me asking to back up your claims.
Give me the source of your 5% BS figure.
CNN.com. I have posted it before.
Also, I don't remember where you had to be a registered republican to vote for a democrat.
You have to be registered republican to vote in the REPUBLICAN primary...you know where they decide who represents the party?
You are starting to sound like a front man for Julie Annie.
If you are so sold on his ass, go start a thread.
1. No...I have not decided yet. I actually like some of Paul's stances...I have said that several times. I just think he has no chance of getting the nomination.

2. It is a shame the best you can do is slander...Julie Annie???? Who is that? When did they announce? Once you start playing BS spelling names you loose any intellectual position you claim to have. Can you debate without the BS?
As far as running something, you think Julie ran New York City, I bet city council had something to do with it.
Yep, just like Congress has something to do with how the President runs a country....Ron Paul's only qualification (that you have claimed so far) is to be on the city council.

The rest of your post is just propaganda and emotional BS. Care to discuss issues with facts? Or are you going to continue with the BS?
Here Ron: This is some of what he runs. http://dailypaul.com/node/10738
You still don't answer the simple question...Instead you link to his website?
Might as well post
http://www.joebiden.com
http://www.hillaryclinton.com
http://www.joinrudy2008.com

Or any other websites.

Just admit that he has never run an organization, much less a large one.

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12-04-2007 01:12 AM  10 years agoPost 78
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well i for one sure as hell do not want someone that has ties to the mob or has proclaimed the lies he has told during 9/11 to be my president!!
hillary is a war monger as well, obama, well don't know,

Smile! people will wonder what you're up to!!

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12-04-2007 01:36 AM  10 years agoPost 79
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who cares if ron paul has ran an orginisation! does that make him an apllicable contender in the election?, who cares!, i know he will have my vote, and all those warmongering so called end the war elitists, which are not willing to end a war of lies and killing innocent people all for the oil they have in the ground, will not get my approval, and they do not get my tax money either!!

Smile! people will wonder what you're up to!!

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12-04-2007 01:42 AM  10 years agoPost 80
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Ron: You need to quit reading around the corners. I have not posted the first BS post,. Long as you have been on here, you know better. Fact and truth, or no post,.
Now, John Gotti was a successful man. And Im sure he and Julie were aquainted. After all, when your daddy was a bag man and enforcer for the mob, you develope some friendships, that don't go away.
Now for Ron Paul, Successful Doctor with over 4000 babies delivered.
AirForce surgeon in early years.
10 term congressman, which I think is respectable. Has not changed his views or voting habits since entering the congress.
The rest is here for you to read. http://www.house.gov/paul/bio.shtml
Your respectable 911 mayor has a law firm in Houston called Guiliani and Partners. One of their biggest clients is no less then Hugo Chaves. Yep, Rudy is an all Amercan Boy.
Only made a little over 10 million, running around the country making speeches about 911, and would not help the firefighters and first responders in NYC, after 911.
Yea, I really want him in the White House.
But, you don't really have to worry about him, The Bilderberg Group has already selected Billary.
Wonder where her 100 million war chest came from. Do a little research, Wonderful things out there on the web. Sure won't hear em on CNN.

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