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11-29-2007 12:14 AM  9 years agoPost 1
trackhead

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From today.

Ambient temps about 8-10F, winds light, elevation 10,000ft.

I'm learning that temps below 20F seem to cause the gray rubber dampers in the Trex to become rather stiff and less pliable, causing a slight vibration in these conditions. So.......I'm thinking perhaps more grease on them? It only occurs in really cold temps.

Here's the short clip.
http://www.pitonproductions.com/Ski...rForkTeaser.MOV ]

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11-29-2007 12:25 AM  9 years agoPost 2
jeffscholl

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Nice!

Was the chase POV from the heli? Helmet?

Are the dampners your referring to in the head?
Cold temps will give mast bumping which can be solved by removing shims and/or increasing headspeed.

Cheers,
Jeff

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11-29-2007 12:41 AM  9 years agoPost 3
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Jeff,

Yes, the chase shot was the heli. I only kept him framed for 3 turns. I never fly with a camera operator. I need one.

Yes, the head dampers. Thanks for the tips. I know you fly in cold Montana temps frequently.

I noticed a skid shake today in the colder temps. Isn't there in 25+ degrees.

Continued learning.

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11-29-2007 12:42 AM  9 years agoPost 4
Hogster

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Impressive teaser! Would like to see more of course

By vibration, are you meaning the wavyness that you can see across the image?

10F is COLD!

Thanks for sharing

David

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11-29-2007 01:02 AM  9 years agoPost 5
rerazor

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Simply amazing footage, WAY to short but great for a tease.

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11-29-2007 01:41 AM  9 years agoPost 6
trackhead

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By vibration, are you meaning the wavyness that you can see across the image?
Yes, this is how the HV10 manifests the slightest vibration. And the reason so many have had troubles with it.

Up to today, it has worked fine. Not to worried about it.

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11-29-2007 02:46 AM  9 years agoPost 7
rroback

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Your work is fantastic!

Rhett..... I can't fly, but the Profi sure can.

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11-29-2007 02:57 AM  9 years agoPost 8
eyeinsky

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Warren Miller watch out!

Great job but it leaves you hanging for some more.

Hard job competing with gravity.

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11-29-2007 03:39 AM  9 years agoPost 9
eric_b

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Nice work, looks good

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11-29-2007 04:21 AM  9 years agoPost 10
Brady Longmore

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I wouldn't sweat those vibes too much. Hardly noticeable to me! Looked really good. I read the comments before watching the video and I was expecting much worse than a bit of a wave. I would have no problem using those clips professionally.

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11-29-2007 04:30 AM  9 years agoPost 11
KarbonBird

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Very nice footage - what does it look like in full HD? Is that where you noticed the vibes??

BTW do you use metal blade holders or the stock plastic? Someone suggested that plastic dampens the vibrations a bit better...

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11-29-2007 04:41 AM  9 years agoPost 12
trackhead

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Very nice footage - what does it look like in full HD? Is that where you noticed the vibes??

BTW do you use metal blade holders or the stock plastic? Someone suggested that plastic dampens the vibrations a bit better...
Funny thing is KB, is that in full HDV rez, there are no vibes, but the footage is slightly wavy. Either way, unacceptable for the most part. But, I think I'll able to fix it in these temps.

I have stock blade holders at the moment.

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11-29-2007 05:33 AM  9 years agoPost 13
kookboy

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It just dumped up here in the past few days.

I need to get my ass in gear Track.

Nice footage.

Jesse

... But honey it was only $$$

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11-29-2007 04:34 PM  9 years agoPost 14
trackhead

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Cold temps will give mast bumping which can be solved by removing shims and/or increasing headspeed.
Jeff,

Spot on, thanks. I made two micro thin shims for the head, which is sloppy without them, taking out the very slight play from the feathering shaft. Flew three batteries early this morning in temps around 15F. No wobble, no vibration.

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11-29-2007 05:17 PM  9 years agoPost 15
daytonabeach

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Hi Trackhead!

Ive been follwing your video clips this autumn, and i must say, im pretty confident that you will succeed in this businnes, the editing of your clips are very proffesional, entertaining and spectacular.

Im a skier myself, and have seen alot of ski moovies, and i think this is really nice work!

By the way, im thinking about getting allied with the skimagazines over here, thats also why its great fun to see that you accomplish what you do, with just a "toy"
Many advantages here compared to a full size, maybe the most is the elimination of the lavine risk due to heavy vibrations from a full size

And hey, about the rubber gaskets, try silicone based rubber :-)

Keep up the good work mate!

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...

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11-29-2007 08:10 PM  9 years agoPost 16
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Recently got this PM, from someone who is upset that I use deshaker in some of my videos. I find it amusing that people get so upset over what other people are using in their workflow.

Poster, I am not lying. Read my other posts about openly admitting to using DeShaker. I have posted threads about how to use it, and have responded in other video posts that I use it. It's a valid tool. Use it if you want, or choose not to. Everyone has their own workflow.

The wavy footage, if you did any research at all, is from the HV10 and how it handles, or doesn't handle vibration. The wavy footage is also partly, not entirely, from Deshaker. It's a well documented problem with the HV10. Again, do some research before you send me some slanderous PM.

I felt the need to post this, as I don't how people can get so emotional over such a silly subject.

Oh the lies and deceit.
It is very obvious that this footage was computer stabilized. Why would you post footage that was stabilized in a thread and ask people to help you find vibrations in your heli? Many people will get pissed at you for wasting their time when they find out.

Reading your replys to questions about the wavy video...Its only a matter of time before someone puts two and two together and sees that you are lieing.

My advice is to remove the video asap and close the thread. Its yours and your companies reputation at risk here.

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11-29-2007 08:21 PM  9 years agoPost 17
trackhead

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Private PM'er................

Here are some of my posts discussing DeShaker.

http://www.runryder.com/search.htm?...sortby=lastpost

DeShaker is no different than Lightroom or Photoshop. It's just another tool in post production that some choose to utilize, and some don't.

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11-29-2007 08:23 PM  9 years agoPost 18
daytonabeach

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****, and im using photoshop to sharpen my pics, guess im busted to then

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...

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11-29-2007 08:38 PM  9 years agoPost 19
cranester

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WHAT! you are using Deshaker?? There's no way I will ever trust you again. Shame on you.

Juan Crane

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11-29-2007 08:38 PM  9 years agoPost 20
dreslism

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What a butthole.

I could see if you were a mount manufacturer and said look at the video from my mount. Isn't it vibe free?? Come buy my mount.

You are a dude making a video/movie. (And a damn good one at that. )

I don't see how the nonsense your private PM'er is spewing is even relevant.

Trackhead,

The only thing I'm pissed at you about is only teasing me with 12 seconds!!!!

Now quit screwing around go make some more. I need another hit on my daily 12 seconds...

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