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11-28-2007 09:21 PM  9 years agoPost 21
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Well then, all due respect Michael, but I won't spend dough with a biz whose leaders bail out crooks, even if the bailout doesn't directly benefit the crook.

Best wishes to you though.

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11-28-2007 09:23 PM  9 years agoPost 22
michael88997

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well i don't buy stuff there either lol.... 2 reasons i work there:
1. i cant find another job that works with my college classes hours.
2. very heli friendly.. close at 8 and never open sundays... so even if i have to work sat i can still fly sunday

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11-28-2007 09:25 PM  9 years agoPost 23
GimbalFan (RIP)

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i don't buy stuff there either lol
Now that there's funny, I don't care who y'are.

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11-28-2007 09:25 PM  9 years agoPost 24
Rotor

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Gimbal,
You're just upset because he decided to give HIS money to something that has to do with Christianity...

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly

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11-28-2007 09:26 PM  9 years agoPost 25
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Prove it.

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11-28-2007 09:26 PM  9 years agoPost 26
RCHeliJim

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Gimbal,
You're just upset because he decided to give HIS money to something that has to do with Christianity...
Ding, we have a winner!
Prove it.
Post-history, man, its all in the posts .

A business owner decides to save a university he believes in from going under and you attack him. He is not helping the crook nor the crooks organization ,he is helping the people that the crook ultimately hurt.... I think a fitting end would be to change the name of the school to completely remove itself from Mr Roberts.



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11-28-2007 09:28 PM  9 years agoPost 27
GimbalFan (RIP)

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What -- an RC hobbyist can't be an equal-opportunity crook and/or crook-bailer-outer despiser?

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11-28-2007 09:29 PM  9 years agoPost 28
4NoWhiners

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It would have been just as bad for him if they would have given money to Manny, Jimco or Seneca.

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11-28-2007 09:31 PM  9 years agoPost 29
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Now you're reachin'.

Think of it this way: If the Green family has the inclination to be charitable and use their millions to bail out an institution bankrupted by a corrupt individual, then why not instead manifest that charitable (and honorable) inclination by donating the funds to others who are far more needy and make Oral Roberts & Co clean up their own mess by PAYING BACK what he/they STOLE?

I'm not against charity -- I'm against enabling corruption by bailing out crooks.

And I'm dead-against crooks regardless of their denomination or lack of one.

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11-28-2007 09:51 PM  9 years agoPost 30
Rotor

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The title of this thread should be...
"Shame On Gimbalfan"

My motto is this..Fly...Rebuild...Fly

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11-28-2007 09:52 PM  9 years agoPost 31
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Based on what, Rotor? Because I despise crooks? Should I instead support them? Do YOU support them?

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11-28-2007 10:43 PM  9 years agoPost 32
Dood

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"I am not a crook"

Thats the Nixon quote everone knows, my favorite Nixon quote is,
"Solutions are NOT the answer!" No one ever remembers that one, though.

1) I just brought politics into this thread, just after someone said something about "how nice RR is without politics".

2) This post will most lilely get 'pinked'

3) I just pissed GimbalFan off by trolling his thread, and posting a picture of a 'crook' when the picture would have been better suited for the "Old Doods Thread" <<---- CLICK MY LINK

I'm gonna get booted off of Run Ryder, arent I?

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11-28-2007 10:50 PM  9 years agoPost 33
derek533

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Let me ask you this Gimbal, what about all those people who lost their entire nest eggs because of an idiot named Ken Lay at Enron? If someone had agreed to bail them out and reimburse all those lost retirement accounts would you be opposed to that? Point is, if you have ever worked for a medium to large size company, the company is made of the employees. While the CEO is the mouthpiece of the company so to speak, he is not the company. The company is the regular 8 to 5'ers who bust their ass everyday to provide for their families. Sounds corny and cliche, but it is the truth. One man's actions should not warrant the entire company (or university) and thousands of employees who are a part of it and totally blameless, to go down along with him (or her for the PC crowd).

How is this any different bro?

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11-28-2007 10:54 PM  9 years agoPost 34
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Thats the problem with headlines, its all most people read and they form an opinion from just that. I don't think its fair to comment on anything unless you fully researched it and have a complete understanding of the issue.

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11-28-2007 11:27 PM  9 years agoPost 35
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GimbalFan

THANK YOU GimbalFan.....I am glad that I am not a sucker anymore believing all that crap what people say about GOD and all the BS that comes with it. It totally makes sense to me how the whole thing with religion is having a fall out. This is just the beginning of our own hell that is about to walk upon the earth. All I have to say is LMAO!!!!

I will never donate any of my hard cash to any charity or religion service as long as I live unless I see personally where the funds go to help people.

Jewish = Fake
Christians = Fake
Mormons = Fake
Muslims = Fake
Catholics = Fake

To make it short out of thousands of religion....they are all FAKE!!! GimbalFan, don't worry about all these christians or religion folks jumping on your back trying to lower the severe impact this is gonna have on everyone. Just leave them alone so they can sit in their millions of dollar temples and pray to GOD when their own lifestyle is totally against what GOD wants. I am so tired of all these hypocrities that practice religion....seriously just be yourself and be cool. We can all get along without bickering.

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11-29-2007 12:16 AM  9 years agoPost 36
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GimbalFan

THANK YOU GimbalFan.....I am glad that I am not a sucker anymore believing all that crap what people say about GOD and all the BS that comes with it. It totally makes sense to me how the whole thing with religion is having a fall out. This is just the beginning of our own hell that is about to walk upon the earth. All I have to say is LMAO!!!!

I will never donate any of my hard cash to any charity or religion service as long as I live unless I see personally where the funds go to help people.

Jewish = Fake
Christians = Fake
Mormons = Fake
Muslims = Fake
Catholics = Fake

To make it short out of thousands of religion....they are all FAKE!!! GimbalFan, don't worry about all these christians or religion folks jumping on your back trying to lower the severe impact this is gonna have on everyone. Just leave them alone so they can sit in their millions of dollar temples and pray to GOD when their own lifestyle is totally against what GOD wants. I am so tired of all these hypocrities that practice religion....seriously just be yourself and be cool. We can all get along without bickering.
quite possibly one of the wisest things ever posted on this forum.

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11-29-2007 12:24 AM  9 years agoPost 37
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what about all those people who lost their entire nest eggs because of an idiot named Ken Lay at Enron? If someone had agreed to bail them out and reimburse all those lost retirement accounts would you be opposed to that?
The milk's been spilt with Oral Roberts U, and years before with Enron.

Whatever sorts of buyouts or bailouts can be (or are) arranged should be done in such a way that will still apply the MAXIMUM burden onto those who are truly at fault, rather than using those sames funds from those generous individuals or businesses that would've instead been spent on those who're far more needy -- and far more deserving.

No one should be surprised when folks like me adjust our spending habits accordingly when the companies whose products we seek bail out crooks.
How is this any different bro?
Not that much after all, eh?

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11-29-2007 01:03 AM  9 years agoPost 38
helo_chris

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Just a bit back on topic guys, Hobby Lobby Creative Centers(founded in 1972) and Hobby Lobby International Inc.(RC-founded 1963) are in no way affiliated or related.

"There is a fine line between cutting edge and bleeding edge.."

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11-29-2007 01:12 AM  9 years agoPost 39
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So Michael above who works for one or the other of them is incorrect? I'm confused, and I've already had my daily quart of coffee.

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11-29-2007 01:13 AM  9 years agoPost 40
RCHeliJim

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GimbalFan

THANK YOU GimbalFan.....I am glad that I am not a sucker anymore believing all that crap what people say about GOD and all the BS that comes with it. It totally makes sense to me how the whole thing with religion is having a fall out. This is just the beginning of our own hell that is about to walk upon the earth. All I have to say is LMAO!!!!

I will never donate any of my hard cash to any charity or religion service as long as I live unless I see personally where the funds go to help people.

Jewish = Fake
Christians = Fake
Mormons = Fake
Muslims = Fake
Catholics = Fake

To make it short out of thousands of religion....they are all FAKE!!! GimbalFan, don't worry about all these christians or religion folks jumping on your back trying to lower the severe impact this is gonna have on everyone. Just leave them alone so they can sit in their millions of dollar temples and pray to GOD when their own lifestyle is totally against what GOD wants. I am so tired of all these hypocrities that practice religion....seriously just be yourself and be cool. We can all get along without bickering.

quite possibly one of the wisest things ever posted on this forum.
Calling people you dont even know "hypocrities" (hehe), nice judgement call. Since you know all of the people in all of those religions you listed so well - you must be the authority on how we all live a "lifestyle totally against what GOD wants".

Sorry, but lumping all religious people into your mold of what religious people are is not even close to wisdom. I agree people need to be themselves, be cool, and get along - but MILLIONS of us do this everyday while choosing to live a religion as well. Your statement is just as misinformed as someone saying that all indians are drunks or some other blanket judgement. I am a "Mormon" and I support your right to have the opinion that my beliefs are flawed - please show the same respect for mine. My beliefs have definitely helped me in my life and I like to think that I am decent and respectful to those I associate with - regardless of beliefs.

Oral Roberts is obviously a bad dude that deserves punishment, but I think it is noble of the Hobby Lobby guy to help keep many people employed and keep a school he obviously has feelings for alive. This is his choice and his money, how would you like being told where you can and cannot donate funds to? Who decides who is deserving - you? Do you know who else he has given to? I sure wouldnt want to be judged based on news snippets as you do to him, you wouldnt like it either.

Silliness, pure silliness. Like someone said before, if this was not a religious university this wouldnt even be a topic. Notice how the thread quickly turned into an anti-religious theme.

Change the story to something like: "Stanford University saved by gracious donor after school president pilfers funds. Thousands of jobs saved." and there would be little backlash. His helping of the school is not a bailout for Roberts, its a help to the victims of his crap.

There are plenty of bad people posing as religious followers, just as there are many bad people with no religious views at all. There is good and bad in all walks of life. Most people that choose to follow Christianity in all its forms are good decent people, just as most other people are.



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