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11-27-2007 06:22 AM  9 years agoPost 1
jhamlinjr

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Trying to learn piro flips on the sim. I use the pinch method. I can "stir the stick" for a couple of rounds then it starts slipping off. I have tried to thumb it and just plain grab the sides with my thumb and index finger. How do you guys do it? I got the rhythm down and can make them look pretty good until I have no stick left.

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11-27-2007 06:49 AM  9 years agoPost 2
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Velcro.

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11-27-2007 07:04 AM  9 years agoPost 3
jhamlinjr

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Dont think that that hasn't crossed my mind GimbalFan! =-)

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11-27-2007 07:11 AM  9 years agoPost 4
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Could it be that sweat is making your fingers slippery? Maybe roughing up the sticks w/sandpaper and then reinstalling them might help.

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11-27-2007 07:42 AM  9 years agoPost 5
TonyTypeS

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I think your just pinching the stick too much Ease off a lil and try to push and pull the sticks. I was having the same problem like you when I first tried to do piro flips The more you do them the more you will learn. I found that by using my fingers to push and pull the sticks the fingers don't slip off anymore. I learned that I was grabbing to tight at first and the pressure that I applied pushed my fingers right off Lol

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11-27-2007 03:14 PM  9 years agoPost 6
jhamlinjr

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I will try the push/pull method. My sticks seem to have enough roughness to them, my fingers just eventually work themselves off. Could be a solution though.

Anymore suggestions are welcome!

Thanks guys!

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11-27-2007 03:43 PM  9 years agoPost 7
tplummer

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I stuck old dampners around the gimbals. Take a file and rough them up a little then throw them on. I noticed that I was really sqeezing hard on the sticks at the field to the point of cramping my hand. The dampners give your brain a little more feedback that something is indeed there I guess. Also, if you do this, the top of the dampner should sit just below the spikey area at the top of the gimbal. Kinda obvious but if you push too far your thumbs don't get that benifit.

Good luck,
Travis

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11-27-2007 03:45 PM  9 years agoPost 8
legoman67

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im having simular probs with my thumbs... they get so far off the stick that i dont have enough travel to pull out of the piro..

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11-27-2007 05:26 PM  9 years agoPost 9
Micro-Maniac

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I agree with Tony - You probably have too tight of sqeeze on the stick - Best to just have a light relaxed touch at the top of the stick - Light enough even that you can reposition your thumb or finger as you're working the stick - That's probably a big part of the reason pinchers stay on the sticks better than thumbers is we can walk the stick by repositioning a digit on the fly while keeping another digit on the stick and not miss a beat - When the stick walks out from under thumbers there's not much they can do about it other than sorta take a pause to reposition their thumb

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11-27-2007 07:46 PM  9 years agoPost 10
jhamlinjr

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Thanks, too windy to fly today so it will definatly be a sim day. Lots of time to try out your suggestions. Will report back later.

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11-27-2007 07:58 PM  9 years agoPost 11
TachyonDriver

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A neckstrap and/or tx tray may help when using the pinch method; the rest of your hands can "rest" LOL ahem.. thus meaning that you're not haning on for dear life to the tx.

Tach.

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11-27-2007 08:01 PM  9 years agoPost 12
Micro-Maniac

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Oh yeah there's a whole ergonomic to the pinch method:

Let your arms hang relaxed from your shoulders
Bend your elbows 90° keeping your wrists straight with your palms in (OK signs with the Os level)
Adjust your neck strap and radio balance so that the radio hangs level while resting against your torso at the position between your hands

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11-27-2007 08:02 PM  9 years agoPost 13
jhamlinjr

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Ah, never thought about using a neckstrap with my sim. I dont fly with one but thats something else to try.

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11-27-2007 08:14 PM  9 years agoPost 14
Micro-Maniac

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Neck strap is a major key that allows you to loosen up on the radio - I don't use one while on the sim but I just about can't fly without one on the real deal

See my previous post in case you missed it as we posted nearly simultaneous

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11-27-2007 08:48 PM  9 years agoPost 15
jhamlinjr

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Gotcha, seems like when I flied the real thing with a neck strap, my crash percentage went up so I quit using it. Maybe using it on the sim will get me used to it and will improve my real flying although people dont believe Ive only been flying for 13 months now.

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11-28-2007 01:20 AM  9 years agoPost 16
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Short video of me. 13 months with no prior RC experience. No planes, no cars. Crappy camera though. Sorry! This was for a company that does aerial cinamatography. They wanted a video of me flying nose in. Couldnt help but to through a little 3D in.

http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/...nt=MOV05571.flv

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11-28-2007 04:51 AM  9 years agoPost 17
TonyTypeS

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Also your stick lenghts maybe too long for you I like to have mines short since I have small hands Lol

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11-28-2007 05:00 AM  9 years agoPost 18
jhamlinjr

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Wish I had the time today to try you guys suggestions but had to take my daughter to basketball tryouts. Had forgotten about that but got to prioritise ya know. Tommorrow will at the fire sta. so should have some spare time. I will try all your suggestions. Thanks again!!

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