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11-26-2007 10:33 PM  9 years agoPost 1
jascamera

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Check this link out. Great deal, but people still debating on rather it's AP worthy. I think I am going to give it a try, if it don't work out, then I just sell it.

http://www.techbargains.com/news_displayitem.cfm/104871

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11-26-2007 11:13 PM  9 years agoPost 2
helicrack

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I'd like to see this, the link is giving me problems.

".........said the joker to the thief"

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11-27-2007 12:38 AM  9 years agoPost 3
jascamera

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I just check, the link works. But try this link.

http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/prod...la=DATAFEED->;PRODUCTS&cm_ite=1%20PRODUCT&cm_keycode=388565

with this 10% coupon code

PVAB4Q7AAT

I pay $733 with tax in NYC.

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11-27-2007 12:57 AM  9 years agoPost 4
okiefarmr

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HV-20

jascamera

I have seen several post on this camera really not AP quality. There was a post not too long ago discussing this. Might want to take a look.

Mike

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11-27-2007 01:02 AM  9 years agoPost 5
helicrack

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That link worked for me. Being new to AP and cameras alltogether, let me ask...Can you capture good still images from this particular HD camera or any HD camcorder?

".........said the joker to the thief"

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11-27-2007 03:43 AM  9 years agoPost 6
KarbonBird

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Some have suggested that this camera is fine for AP and posted short video clips to support this claim.

Having owned a HV20 and HC7 - and returned them both disappointed with the results I hold the view that both are too sensitive to vibrations for me to use them for commercial AP activities. Given that I did my testing on a relatively smooth T-Rex 600e there is no way that I will be getting acceptable results with the GSR260 I have just bought.

I will declare any HD camera suitable for AP when it tolerates a "reasonable" amount of vibration and pans at a moderate speed without blurring the picture. I admit that I may have to wait a while....

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11-27-2007 04:57 AM  9 years agoPost 7
gjestico

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I will declare any HD camera suitable for AP when it tolerates a "reasonable" amount of vibration and pans at a moderate speed without blurring the picture. I admit that I may have to wait a while....
A lot of the picture problems that one sees in these small vid cams comes from the codec used to record to the tape (or card).
HDV (most common tape based solution) is still using the same tape and head system that was used on DV(standard def). Same data bit rate. Since HD video has more than 4 times the data in it than DV, the HDV codec is HEAvily compressed to make it fit into the same space. AVCHD(flash card memory) is even worse as its bit rate capacity is less than the DVtape/head system. This compression takes the form of taking one actual video frame and interpolating the next 10+ to get the bit rate down. Camera movement really throws this codec off.

Unfortunatly the next step up from HDV is a big one, the Panasonic DVCPROHD codec is used on specially developed panasonic P2 cards that fit their pro cams. It has a bit rate 4 times that of HDV Smallest cam to use the P2 system is the HVX200, which is very popular among indy filmamakers. 6+ pounds and $5000. P2 cards start at $800 each.

Greg

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11-27-2007 05:03 AM  9 years agoPost 8
jascamera

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It a very good price, I will give it a try. I seen couple of short clips and look pretty good, so it's a good sign. If it dosen't work out, I can sell it for about the price I get, or keep it for other uses.

Helicrack--It shoot 3mp photos at up to 5 frame per sec.

KarbonBird--I have similar helis like yours. t-rex 450, 600 but I have a Airstar Vario gasser. Have you got a chance to fly the GSR260 yet? I bought the gasser for 2 months already, still haven't fly it yet. I am scare of it, don't know too much about gas helis. I will have to go to the field and have someone to start it up for me.

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11-27-2007 10:01 AM  9 years agoPost 9
KarbonBird

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Jas - yes, give the HV20 a go - maybe you can master it like you did with the 450 footage which was excellent. Be prepared for some fiddling though it's quite a sensitive beast.

I'm new to the Gasser world myself to and have been getting feedback on the forums on breaking it in, batteries, fuel mix and more - so much to learn really. The heli is on order and hopefully should be here within 2 weeks or so, so haven't had a burn with it yet. From what I have read the GSR260 is a very stable heli so after the T-Rex 450 it should be pretty easy to handle. I have also gone Spektrum for the radio for additional safety. Good luck with the maiden flight - I'm sure you will enjoy it!!!

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