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T-REX 450 › Is it me or does the CC 35 esc ST!NK
11-26-2007 10:05 PM  10 years agoPost 21
172AMD

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Had my CC35 in my trex450 for two years, then one day on power up it smoked! Sent it to CC, asked that it be repaired. They sent me a new one, no charge. Why did it fail? who knows.
Dave.

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11-26-2007 10:08 PM  10 years agoPost 22
Rogan

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It's you...
It may be me, but it's not just me.

Also, you suck...

Let me break down the original post for you, as you seem to need a little help understanding.
Well I am sure I set it up correctly. I have owned two of them without any luck. The problem is that this esc doesn't give much power or makes something hot.
Those are both CC problems I have encountered
My original trex v1 had a cc 35 and a 430l motor, it didn't produce much power, but the stock align esc was better. I set up my trex v2 today and after a flight my mega motor was hot. I replaced it with a schulze and after a flight everything was cool. The battery was a little warm, but not bad.
The OP is making a simple observation here. I agree with it, please use your superior knowledge to discount it.
I don't have them set for gov mode.
That's lucky because in my experience you get even less power in governed mode.
Not sure what the problem is but, I don't think I am buying anything CC again. Does anyone have the same experience.
Yes I have had the same exact experience, and no I wouldn't buy CC again either.

A supercilious tagline, and a crappy offhand flame do not make you an expert.

kthxbai.

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11-26-2007 10:47 PM  10 years agoPost 23
SSN Pru

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Rogan

Let me break down your Subject Line for you since you apparently don't know what you wrote...
Is it me or does the CC 35 esc ST!NK
Seems pretty simple to me, I disagree with you. It's you. You either perceive the quality and function of the CC35 incorrectly or you have not set it (the ESC) up correctly or you have not set something up correctly in yoru heli.

Simple...

CArry on.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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11-26-2007 11:31 PM  10 years agoPost 24
Edge

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Your can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear!

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11-27-2007 05:03 PM  10 years agoPost 25
dct

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Your can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear!
Sorry, I can't agree. Any thing (ESC)that has over 600 flights on it and still working just fine,can't be that bad.My helicopter might crash tomorrow, but ,if it the CC esc, I can't complain ,for $80.00 it's done a VERY good job for a long time.

**Now doing Forward Flight And EASY 3d! And having a Ball !!**

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11-27-2007 05:36 PM  10 years agoPost 26
Edge

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Believe my point was missed. There were model T Fords that some seemed able to make run forever, but the best mechanic couldn't get them to perform like a Duesenberg! The CC35 ESC in my view is a little like the model T, it can be made to give dependable performance. But it is not the best ESC for getting the smoothest and best performance from your motor of choice. And as to the issue of justifying a more expensive ESC, if all you ever rode in was a model T, you might think it was great - till you rode in a Duesenberg!

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11-27-2007 05:49 PM  10 years agoPost 27
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There are still over 300,000 model t's registered. I wonder how many Duesenbergs there are. The model T was never built with the intention of being a luxury car and was NEVER competition to the Duesenberg. Two completely different animals.

Since I have a CC35 that works perfectly yet haven't tried the jazz, what will the jazz do for me. Are you saying it'll actually cause my motor to put out more power, longer flight time, will it do the rolling circles for me, what.

There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness."

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11-27-2007 05:51 PM  10 years agoPost 28
SSN Pru

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The jazz will most assuredly put a bigger dent in your wallet for a questionable performance increase...

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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11-27-2007 06:02 PM  10 years agoPost 29
Eco8gator

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Hello

No the Jazz works and keeps on working. It never gets hot and you can fly as many back to back flights as you want with out waiting for regulator to cool down on the CC, and trust me you have to wait for it to cool down if you fly hard.

There isnt much wrong with the CC, it does work and pretty well for the price. But in that price range and preformance Id rather use an Align ESC or the TT ESC's and save some money and get similar preformance.

If you want quality there is no questioning the Jazz. It does everything well.

C

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11-27-2007 06:10 PM  10 years agoPost 30
SSN Pru

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No the Jazz works and keeps on working. It never gets hot and you can fly as many back to back flights as you want with out waiting for regulator to cool down on the CC, and trust me you have to wait for it to cool down if you fly hard.
I don't trust you but don't take that personally, I don't know you.

I fly my heli pretty hard on back to back flights with my 4 y/o CC35 and never have I allowed anything to cool down. Proper airflow and a bulletproof setup can do wonders...

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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11-27-2007 08:32 PM  10 years agoPost 31
balbs

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When I first got my CC35 about 3.5 years ago, it would overheat. So much so that the plastic wrapping melted. I then bought the Castle link and updated the firmware..It's been golden ever since. It's still running strong!

Balbs

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11-27-2007 08:59 PM  10 years agoPost 32
SSN Pru

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So much so that the plastic wrapping melted
Mine did the same thing as many others have. There have been numerous posts about the shrink melting. I am very confidant that the problem was not with a ESC overheating but with heatshrink tubing being used that was not rated to the temps seen.

the only problem I ever experienced with my CC35 was one of the caps broke off. It was most likely crash damage. the ESC ran fine without of the caps on there because I was not going to go home because it was off. It flew and ran fine as it was. A bit of finely placed solder and the ESC was like new.

Some of you proud jazz owners i think are interpreting our comments the wrong way. I can only speak for myself when I say that my comments here are not meant to deride or otherwise talk down upon the Jazz. It is a good controller just overkill IMO. The performance advantage is arguable at best. The setup is arguably easier on the Jazz too but I can hardly find it difficult to program the CC35. I personally like the CC link functionality as it means that my 3 or 4 y/o CC35 can keep up with the times where your Jazz has to be bought new to get new firmware.

Stupidity can be cured. Ignorance is for life!

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11-27-2007 09:03 PM  10 years agoPost 33
Edge

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Appanently my anology using cars caused my point to be missed. Maybe I should have used planes comparing say a J3 Cub, to a Cessna 172. They both get you from point to point, but obviously the 172 would perform better. I've used all the ESC's out there, from CC, Quark, to Jazz. If you put two identical heli's side by side, with one using a CC35 and the other using a Jazz, you can tell the difference in performance. And I'm not talking about the spoolup. I'm talking about the smoothness of motor and performance in the air. The difference might be a little subjective to some, depending on your preference, but it is there. Is the difference worth the extra upfront cost, obviously different people will have different opinions. I have hundreds of flights with the Jazz, using different motors. I've not thought about the ESC or the setup since putting it in the bird. No heat from internal BEC, softest spoolup, great governor performance; it just flat works every time. IMHO, it's one of the best ESC's out there, and worth every penny of the cost!

The majority of pilots seem to be using either the Align or CC ESC. It could be that ESC choice is one of those Ford/Chevy things!

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11-27-2007 09:26 PM  10 years agoPost 34
ChrisT88

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umdpru, FYI Carlo (Eco8gator) is an electrical engineer with a masters degree. I think thats enough reason to "trust" him.

Also, I have seen the CC35 shut down when flown hard. This is me flying Carlos 450 with CC35:

http://www.theastonisher.com/ChrisHarmon/FILE0035.wmv

The next flight I flew more aggressively and the BEC shut down. It worked fine once cooled off.

I agree the CC35 BEC is fine for most but can and does shut down.

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11-27-2007 09:45 PM  10 years agoPost 35
Eco8gator

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Updates arnt really needed if the ESC works correctly from the get go...something Kontronik seems to do very well. All I know is if you like your Castle then go with it...they do work ok but not good enough for me; if your as hard on the electronics as Chris and I are, then you may want to consider something a little better, thats all that Im saying.

BTW

umdpru...you tend to come off as a jerk, just so you know.

C

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11-27-2007 10:17 PM  10 years agoPost 36
kingair

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Maybe I should have used planes comparing say a J3 Cub, to a Cessna 172. They both get you from point to point, but obviously the 172 would perform better.
Nope, not buying it, J3 would perform much better on a short unimproved dirt strip. The 172 would just buckle it's nose gear. Just kidding, I get your analogy.

My 1926 heli hauler

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11-27-2007 11:03 PM  10 years agoPost 37
Edge

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Nice car! I'd keep the "birds" off of it!

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11-27-2007 11:26 PM  10 years agoPost 38
martinic

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Another damned troll thread...

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11-27-2007 11:36 PM  10 years agoPost 39
balbs

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Yes umdpru, maybe the plastic was not resilient enough to take the heat. However, the ESC in general did run alot cooler after the update.

Balbs

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11-28-2007 12:54 AM  10 years agoPost 40
dct

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Edge,
Nice car! I'd keep the "birds" off of it!
Just too funny!

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