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12-01-2007 09:53 AM  9 years agoPost 241
daytonabeach

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Pardon me for saying this, but did you REALY thought you were going to meet Julia at that address, and that she would be the sister in law?
Even if this guy is stupid, hes not THAT stupid, and EVEN if that woman you spoke to should happen to know "him" she would of course pretend that she didnt know anything if she got suspiscious, thats a pretty normal reaction pattern in a case like this ;-)

Another stupid thing the bank did, or was going to do, is to alert the idiot that somone have suspected any fraudulent behaviour, then he will be prepared for that. If i were the bank, i would just put that account under surveylance until further notice to see if theres any suspiscious going on there, then contact the police...

Sorry for giving you this harsh feedback, but this is only to make a point of that we easily underestimate this sucker

His overall inteligence might not be very high, but the fact that he is very good at just this little thing called fraud is enough for him to succseed in what he does, so dont ever underestimate guys on that part.

If we could get more info from the police regarding this case we could probably solve it for them more or less, i did once, cause i knew some people in the local force, that little extra info i got was enough for me to investigate it on my own, the i returned with a file and showed them everything i had digged up, they were PRETTY impressed, BUT due to capacity they STILL couldnt convict him, how about that, i gave them all the proof they needed, but still, pretty frustrating yes

But trough my police friends and a friend at the phone directory i was able to digg up 4 of his "secret" ph#, even his sons, then he reacted with getting pissed at me, threathning me trough mail, i said, yes anytime pal, anytime... boy i laughed

My plan was to visit him and knock down his door with a couple of volonteer "big bad guys", but he lived to far away at that time, so time flew, and things settle down, you simply dont give a **** after a while, and thinking, its not worth it, and that is all in all the truth, unless were talking about millions of bucks

Dont forget, the sky is the limit, stay cool guys

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...

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12-01-2007 10:34 AM  9 years agoPost 242
krav

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I'll just react to your reply.

Firstly, I ain't that stupid that I'm under the illusion that I'm gonna meet him or his relatives at that address.

Secondly, you have no idea how/when the bank will approach the account holder. Was you there when the discussion was made about looking for patterns in the account concerning large amount of foreign currency, don't think so, I didn't see you there.

Thirdly, I quote, "Bring a camera, take a snapshot when the door opens, so we can see how he, she, it looks like, bloody bastards
Tell he **** that youre investigating a fraud (that doesnt mean youre from the police, but its natural to assume that ) and that you need to ask a couple of questions, tell he **** that it would be preferable to co-operate... posted by daytonabeach Senior Heliman
Registered: Aug 2007 Location: Oslo, Norway

The UK police will not act on this no matter how much you take them.
I did a close surveillance job where I had video footage of a crime being carried out, the police were called as I wasn't tasked to to detain the intruders but the intruders were still less than 20m from my location. The intruders had a scanner on the go and picked up the police dispatch call, they legged it just before the police arrived. Even with the video evidence which showed full facial, vehicle registrations and the fact were had all their equipment including items from their vehicle the police couldn't be arsed to follow up the inevestigation.

Having been the target of internet fraud, my details were passed on by a florist after sending my daughter some flowers, I know how much of a pain it is to get the bank account sorted out after a hit.

The fact that perhaps one lady is now a bit more aware that her account is possibly in the process of being used outside of her knowledge means I happy I achieved something and that the long haul through slow moving traffic was worth it.

If she is related to this idiot then perhaps he's going to realise that he screwed up by using her details and he'll be wondering what else he's screwed up on.

The difference between a genius and a fool is that a genius has limitations.

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12-01-2007 11:20 AM  9 years agoPost 243
daytonabeach

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Ok Krav!

I think we should close this topic now, as this as you understand only leads to be "enemies" between our selves, and THAT would be pretty stupid, agree?

I wasnt making fool of you in anyway, im just pointing out, as ive tried before in this post that this is only waste of time, idiots like this doesnt give a damn about anything, not even his freinds or family that thinks he should stop this, they only care about one person, and thats them selves.

I understand what you mean by
"If she is related to this idiot then perhaps he's going to realise that he screwed up by using her details and he'll be wondering what else he's screwed up on"

But frankly i can almost guarantee you that he couldnt or wouldnt care about that at all.
I have (before what im doing know) 15 yrs of experience in security and surveilance, ive been wathcing everything from simple choplifters to Russian presidents, and i got enough life and work experience to know how these simple thieves work (99% of them)
Even if they get caught by the police, they will carry on the very same day they are out on the streets again, these are people obesessed of what they do, you can actualy in a way compare them to a junkie shooting heroin, they simply wont quit cause they find some sick excitment in this, cause they are loosers in this sosciety and the only thing theier "good" at is this.
It is all about pshycologically reassons, therefore they can screw both closest family and best friends if necesarry.

So once again Krav, please dont take this personally, im not trying to be offensive or making fun of you, even if i can sound very straight forward sometimes, i just mean it in a friendly way

So once again, i think we should forget this scumbag now, cause he have understood now that somethings wrong, and further communications with him will just be a waste of time.

Remember, he works from A to B, and he wil not go beyond that, he probably have his own "rules of engament" which is, quit and move on to the next, when people starts askin "picking it up personally" "may i phone you" etc etc

Have a wonderful weekend Krav, and dont be pissed at me, lifes to short for that

Never argue with an idiot, he'll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience...

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12-01-2007 01:00 PM  9 years agoPost 244
krav

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hey daytonabeach, I fully agree that this guy won't give a toss about those outside of his sphere.
I don't take offense easily so no probs about being pissed off, sooner listen to someone who speaks their mind to my face than behind my back.
have a good one yourself.

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12-01-2007 02:14 PM  9 years agoPost 245
46Taylorcraft

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the way I see it is if the scammer has found out that someone has actually went to the bank and knocked the door of a residence in the UK from a scam he is trying to pull in the US, he knows he's messed with the wrong guys.

That in and of itself is satisfaction and I might even go so far as to say he won't put up another fake ebay ad for an RC helicopter because it's likely he has learned that we are all a tight knit community and we communicate globally.

It could be said that if he has found out about us and he says to hell with these RC helicopter scams, then we have won our little battle.

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12-01-2007 02:18 PM  9 years agoPost 246
eyeinsky

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Fall River, Nova Scotia, Canada

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Guys it is good see that you have made nice and are respectful. Again I say I have had dealing with this same joker in the past. The Gentlemen that he clamed to be was not aware of the fraudulent activity that had been carried out. I took the time make him aware and FWD him all my dealing with the perpetrator. Perhaps I should contact him now and let him know that this same scam is being tried again. He was part of an organization that is involved with internet fraud investigation and I still have his email.

Hard job competing with gravity.

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12-01-2007 03:36 PM  9 years agoPost 247
monterey_tip

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I think just passing on the info to the banks and people who are used as pawns is the best thing to do. I would want to know if someone was using my identity or address fraudulently(which has happened to me too.) I seriously doubt he has any connection with the people he uses. If he were my relative, I'd beat the $h!+ out of him and turn him in myself. He's obviously screwed up in the head. No rational, moral person would do this.

I had a step father growing up that operated in a similar manner. He screwed everyone he knew, went to church to feel OK about everything...then met people in the church and scammed them too. He had his aging parents move in with him, sold their house and took the $. They kept asking to go home, but he had millions of excuses (very convincing too) of why they couldn't go home. He was a great role model for me on how NOT to be. Luckily my mom got tired of his BS and moved on. (Love is blind...it took her 12 yrs!)

As far as our "global tight knit community", let's keep that strong! I've seen some serious anger and hatred on some of the other posts...man that's ugly. It takes a lot of the fun out of what we do.

Tip

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12-01-2007 04:01 PM  9 years agoPost 248
GyroFreak

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Orlando Florida ...28N 81W

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Well I sent my scammer this message since he has not been responding to my last two emails.
Please Call me so we can get this straight. I will give you the Western Union MTCN over the phone and any other info you need.
1 813 276 3704 and ask for Jack.
Oh yeah, just for fun that is the Tampa Bay area police department phone number.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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12-01-2007 04:07 PM  9 years agoPost 249
Hogster

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Surrey, UK

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Ooooh you naughty person you!

David

PS. Maybe it's too late, but you might alert someone in that dept, that should they receive a call from this guy they trace his number?

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12-01-2007 10:42 PM  9 years agoPost 250
eyeinsky

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I have contacted the gentleman that was involve by name only in the earlier dealing on a similar scam because I am convince that this joker is the same persons or group of people. I have invited him to assist if he can, he is involve with internet security and may have something to add.

This is were they got his credit card to open an eBay account.

http://www.boston.com/business/glob..._impact_feared/

Hopefully we are all safe. You should inquire if you have any concern.

Hard job competing with gravity.

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12-04-2007 01:20 AM  9 years agoPost 251
borneobear

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Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

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Don't you guys think for once that this pitiful weasel of a man has called it in. I still got two e-mails from him for WU transfer, even though he ALREADY told me his wife sold the heli to someone else.

Can you beat that???

STUPID!!

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12-04-2007 01:50 AM  9 years agoPost 252
monterey_tip

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Monterey, Ca - USA

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Wow, I would have thought he had caught on by now. Dum Da Dum Dumb!
I wonder if we'll see it again some day?

Tip

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12-04-2007 02:21 AM  9 years agoPost 253
PilotSmith

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California, USA

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I think Mercury has given up Jack. Oh well, we deflated his dreams of getting some fast cash with this heli scam. If you guys have not looked at the videos at 419eater.com, you need to see them. I laughed so hard at them. True dedication by some of those scam baiters to give the scammers a little dose of their own medicine.

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12-04-2007 04:30 AM  9 years agoPost 254
PilotSmith

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California, USA

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One last ditch effort to get at Mercury. The number is to a strip club and Brea is a stripper at that club. (No, I've never been there, got all the info off a Google search.)

Sent:
Mon 12/03/07 8:26 PM
To:
V M (XXX900@yahoo.com)

Jack said you have not called him back to complete our sale. I canceled the WU transfer with him. I have the new WU number for you. I thought he was good at internet stuff but it looks like he does not know what the hell he is doing. Please call me at my work at 213-629-9213. Ask to speak with my assistant, Brea Bennett, she will transfer you to me.

Thank you and sorry for the confusion.

Rusty

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12-04-2007 03:27 PM  9 years agoPost 255
GyroFreak

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Orlando Florida ...28N 81W

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This is Jack, yes he won't respond to my emails now.
he was good at Internet stuff but it looks like he does not know what the hell he is doing. Please call me at my work at 213-629-9213. Ask to speak with my assistant, Brea Bennett, she will transfer you to me.
Very good, I like that. You are becoming a pro at scamming the scammer. Next you will be getting the scammer to get a tattoo.

I think about the hereafter. I go somewhere to get something, then wonder what I'm here after ?

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12-07-2007 02:19 AM  9 years agoPost 256
PilotSmith

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No tattoo, but maybe a carving of my dog.

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12-21-2007 02:23 AM  9 years agoPost 257
Dr_Doom2

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Clarksburg, WV

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It looks like the soap opera is over....oh well. It was fun to follow!!

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12-21-2007 06:11 AM  9 years agoPost 258
BigguyOz

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Forster, New South Wales, Australia

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For now... unfortunately that scab is going to surface again until he gets done like Remote-I

Tony Stott

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12-21-2007 05:42 PM  9 years agoPost 259
w8qz

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Grand Rapids, MI - USA

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The next time, try some payment arrangement for the heli like this scammer (wanted to) use. Funny, this was through WU also

http://www.dumbentia.com/parody_nigerianmadu.html

Let's see - you'd offer to pay for the heli by sharing in a huge lost inheritance in some African bank - if he sends the heli first

"The helicopter is much easier to design than the aeroplane, but is worthless when done."

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12-22-2007 02:02 PM  9 years agoPost 260
monterey_tip

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Monterey, Ca - USA

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Darn...It looks like the fun is over...I guess I'll have to find something else to do for entertainment.
For now... unfortunately that scab is going to surface again until he gets done like Remote-I

Tony
I never dealt with him, but remember hearing about that guy. Did he get caught for scamming?

Tip

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