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HelicopterSafety - RC Helis are not toys › Justin Chi loses control at NEAT fair and heli goes into crowd..
09-17-2007 04:07 AM  10 years agoPost 1
midwestpilot

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I just heard about this... I don't know much info yet.. but it doesnt sound good.

I closed the topic.

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09-17-2007 04:12 AM  10 years agoPost 2
dick smith

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can u find out more

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09-17-2007 04:14 AM  10 years agoPost 3
Furyflyer2

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I only heard the hit, but the man was seriously injured. More about it here- http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/show...e=2#post8190023

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09-17-2007 04:30 AM  10 years agoPost 4
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Benny, Justin's dad, will surely report the details here soon. He's a good guy, an up-front guy, and will no doubt give an honest account of what happened.

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09-17-2007 04:31 AM  10 years agoPost 5
midwestpilot

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repost from rcgroups so you can read it

This is pretty long for a 'first post' but I was at the NEAT fair when the crash occured- in fact, I had been standing exactly where the heli hit the ground not more than 3 minutes prior to the crash. I was standing not more than 10 feet from the impact site. I am not an outdoor flier- I went with a friend who is. What follows are just my observations:
1) Justin had the heli under excellent control.

2) There was a lot of traffic- on two occasions Justin put the heli on the ground and waited while other traffic took off.

3) About 10-15 minutes before the crash, there was a PA announcement regarding an non-impounded transmitter being detected.

4) The distance from the flight line to the fence is 20-25 feet.

5) The sequence of events of the actual crash are as follows: A) Justin has the helicopter in hover near the ground, about 15-20 feet away from him. B) The heli lifted and decribed a flat arc directly towards the crowd and crashed about 5 feet past the fence. This all happened in 2-3 seconds.

6) When I saw the heli was headed my way, I ran about 15 feet and turned to see where it was. It looked like it hit an older gent (who appears to be Justins' grandfather, but that is speculation) but it may have been debris that hit him. Hard to say. The heli crashed not more than 8 feet from his chair.

I cannot emphasize how quickly this all happened- the heli was incredibly fast and I don't see how anyone could have recovered it in time to avoid a disaster.

Why the heli went out of control is anyone's guess.

Again...not my post..I was not there.. I heard about it through one of the major manufacturers and reported it.

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09-17-2007 05:00 AM  10 years agoPost 6
GimbalFan (RIP)

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I'm hearing now from a reliable source that the gentleman's injuries were not serious -- a couple stitches on a cut on his forehead, a couple other scratches and some bruises. Thank goodness. He's being treated at a local hospital and should be released tomorrow.

The gentleman apparently was not related to the Chi family. He was in his chair when Justin's heli crashed near him, as reported above.

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09-17-2007 05:02 AM  10 years agoPost 7
nicholasdugas

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well thats good to know, glad to hear he is ok.


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09-17-2007 05:10 AM  10 years agoPost 8
mjy1288

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Prayers for the injured and prayers for Justin as well as his Dad

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09-17-2007 05:16 AM  10 years agoPost 9
Nick Jones

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I know there will be people blaming this on his age, and that sucks because it could have happened to anyone. Also glad to hear no one was seriously injured (although that is pretty serious)

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09-17-2007 05:28 AM  10 years agoPost 10
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I'm kinda on the fence about a 5yr. old flying but I saw the kid fly at ircha and he did have pretty good skills.
And if you think about it, the two crashes with injuries at ircha were from adults, one who flew so close to himself he crashed into himself, and the other was a bystander who was taking pictures too close to the flight line when another adult pilot crashed and he got hit by the heli.

So, if safety rules don't have to be followed by the adults, why the uproar about the kids age when he crashes?

The guy who flew to close to himself, I havent seen one post on RR about how unsafe that was, let alone the fact that pilot was not only risking his own life showing off, but also the lives of all the people around him. But because he is a freind to most, we just chalk it up as an
"accident"

I just read that link,
kind of brutal, when a little kid with some mad skillzs {but still a little kid}
crashes, all of a sudden the roar on the internet is ready to ban without knowing the facts of why he crashed?

Who knows, maybe it was pilot error, but maybe it wasn't.

If safety isn't suported and enforced better, it will only be a matter of time before more people get hurt or worst.
And the example needs to be led by the top pilots, those guys are really the ones setting the example for the rest.

Flame suit on.

Which is worse, ignorance or apathy? I don't know and I don't care!

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09-17-2007 05:29 AM  10 years agoPost 11
falcon447

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I know there will be people blaming this on his age, and that sucks because it could have happened to anyone. Also glad to hear no one was seriously injured (although that is pretty serious)
Amen to that!!

I'm sure though that it will be written about in the AMA magazine!

Brian

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09-17-2007 05:29 AM  10 years agoPost 12
switch26

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wow!!! thats terrible,but it is great to know that the heli didnt hit anyone directly,Thank God for that,im sure the accident was unavoidable and just hope that this doesnt keep Lil Justin from continuing with the hobby,lets just hope that it doesnt hapen again

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09-17-2007 05:33 AM  10 years agoPost 13
HELI3DFLYR

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Anyone know what Justin was flying? This is crazy

MinAir 1005SE Gasser, Align T600E, T500E GF, 450SE V2

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09-17-2007 05:33 AM  10 years agoPost 14
drdot

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Fwiw..
I've see Justin fly, and I wish the Factory hot dogs would follow his example as far as safe flying goes..This event is what I fear, as equipment failure or lockout turns the best pilot into a spectator..
I'm really thankful the injuries weren't worse, but how long can we expect our luck to hold....

John.

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09-17-2007 05:44 AM  10 years agoPost 15
george0079

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Anyone know what Justin was flying?
The first report that I read stated that he was flying a REX Nitro

Hell... I can fix that.
Uh oh..
Nope.
It's ***ked!!!
RE-KIT!!!!!

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09-17-2007 07:18 AM  10 years agoPost 16
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Benny responds.

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09-17-2007 08:00 AM  10 years agoPost 17
Bad Karma

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If this had been in the UK that display would not meed BMFA requirements for safe distance, for models less than 7KG it is required that there be at least 30m between the crowd and the flying, and 60m above 7KG.

25ft + 15-20ft is way under this, displays seem to be being flown closer than is really safe, distance = time.

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09-17-2007 08:19 AM  10 years agoPost 18
dick smith

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i think we are going to see more accidents in the future as this hobby becomes more accessable to more people.... there are gonna be cowboys out there who wont take safety factors into account...

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09-17-2007 09:09 AM  10 years agoPost 19
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[quote]If safety isn't suported and enforced better, it will only be a matter of time before more people get hurt or worst.
And the example needs to be led by the top pilots, those guys are really the ones setting the example for the rest.

Hear, hear.

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09-17-2007 03:23 PM  10 years agoPost 20
Laurens

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Seems to me that most failures happen on Align heli's

Edge rotorblades, Scorpion systems

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