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09-15-2007 10:13 AM  10 years agoPost 1
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Hey

Does anyone know what parts do i need to replace for converting my TZ to RAPTOR? I heared from pepeole that I only have to raplace some parts in the head...

The reason I have to do this is because there is no parts for TZ availables in my country

thanks

Here's Pics of the head:

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09-15-2007 10:37 AM  10 years agoPost 2
tsokasn

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If i recall well,you must replace everything grom the swashplate and up(all the rotorhead that is,including the swash)The rest of the choper is preety much the same.Use the same paddles or TT lighter.The canopy is a beauty!

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09-15-2007 10:51 AM  10 years agoPost 3
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If I'll buy crash kit for raptor 30 would it be enough or I have to buy more parts?

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09-15-2007 12:36 PM  10 years agoPost 4
jsenicka

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you would need head, grips, hoops, most of the bearings, mixer levers, and all links/rods. Most of this is not in the crash kit

Jim Senicka
Team Manager, GrandRC Flight Team

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09-15-2007 01:43 PM  10 years agoPost 5
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bottom line for your opinion, is it worthwhile?

or it's better to buy a new kit of raptor30?

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09-15-2007 03:43 PM  10 years agoPost 6
legoman67

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i have a ton of parts off my old raptor 50 head, i recently upgraded to kasama, its not everything but it would get you on your way. pm me if interested.

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09-18-2007 03:08 PM  10 years agoPost 7
concept1

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their is NOTHING you are going to bust in the Head that you can't use raptor parts on. the main mast, spindle, flybar, pitch slider and grips are interchangeable with Raptor parts. as are the Tail boom, frame, gears clutch etc.. Personaly I believe the Tz has a much better head then the Raptor, much more stable yet still very quick! Go to the Gohbee forum for more info. the Gohbee parts are also usable since the TZ is basically a Gohbee sold thru someone else I beleive.

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09-19-2007 07:52 PM  10 years agoPost 8
wheelman

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concept1, that information is not correct. While the Raptor main shaft is the same, the hole for the jesus bolt on the Stinger shaft is 4mm, and the Raptor one is only 3mm. Additionally the Raptor spindle is slightly shorter than the Stinger one. (about 2~3mm) The head is in fact totally different above the swash. The rest of the heli will interchange with the Raptor.
My advice would be to simply order some main shafts, and spindles from Gohbee @ http://www.gohbee.com (perhaps a pair of blade grips also) and then use Raptor parts for anything else if they are readily available where you are.

Just curious, is there a cure for this addiction?

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09-19-2007 08:33 PM  10 years agoPost 9
concept1

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I have owned both the Raptor and the Stinger, I Sold my raptor after i got the stinger because the stinger flew much better and I liked the ehad design better. I mostly used Raptor Parts on the Stinger 50. moslty because I could get raptor parts locally. I never had a problem useing the Raptor mast,spindles,grips, canopy or booms on my Stinger 50. If they are different then Sorry for the info, but the Raptor parts did work on my Stinger. Although if I were to order parts I would deffinatly go to Gohbee and order, they are cheaper.

I might still have a few bent spindles I am courious now to see if they are the same lenght.

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09-20-2007 12:29 AM  10 years agoPost 10
wheelman

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Ok concept1 I guess YOU'RE the expert then. I suppose just because I own BOTH heli's at this time, have BOTH heli's on the bench, and double checked this information before I posted, I still don't know what I'm talking about.
Additionally, I just happen to own a hobby shop and happen to have BOTH spindles and BOTH main shafts in stock to do the comparison.
You simply can not deny FACT.
Yes the main shaft from a Stinger WOULD work on a Raptor, BUT the hole for the jesus bolt would be too large, leaving play on the head which would lead to pre-mature bolt failure.
In order for the Raptor main shaft to work on a Stinger you'd have to use a 3mm jesus bolt instead of a 4mm bolt which would also result in pre-mature bolt faliure for the same reason, or head failure for the same reason.
The stinger spindle shaft IS longer than the Raptor one so it would work on the Raptor if ground shorter, or shims were used. Without either the shims or grinding, there would be too much side play in the blade grips.
The Raptor spindle simply would not work PROPERLY on the Stinger because if you tightened it all the way the grips would bind.
Having said all that, one COULD bastardize just about anything if one wanted to. Just because it bolts together does NOT mean that it "fits" or is correct or the right part.
All I was trying to do was correct mis-information. Take it for what it is. We're all here to help each other. I do not think it helps someone to mis-inform them.

Just curious, is there a cure for this addiction?

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09-20-2007 01:15 PM  10 years agoPost 11
concept1

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Like I already said, if they are different I am sorry! If you have them both currently then great, thanks for the info, I never said you were wrong, just that I was able to use them, I also said I was going to look over my old parts and compare! i have now sold all my Glow heli's, but Have owned them both for years.
I would though recomend staying with the Gohbee Head, I do believe it is much better then the Raptor. I might just have been lucky or possibly the parts have Changed, Gohbee is very good at updating parts for better fit/function.

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09-20-2007 01:30 PM  10 years agoPost 12
wheelman

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whatever!
I strongly agree with concept1 regarding sticking with the TZ (Gohbee) head. It tends to be less pitchy than the Raptor head especially in fast forward flight. Even though the TZ head is an inherently more stable by design it's still flips and rolls very fast. Kind of the best of both worlds. It's not likely that you'll damage anything on the head during a crash other than the main shaft & feathering spindle. Again I would recommend ordering a supply of those parts, and perhaps a pair of main grips. If you do order from Gohbee (and you should) then be sure to grab a pair of their "on edge" dampers as well. You may not need them right away, but by the time you wear out the stock dampers, you'll likely be a litle more comfortable flying the heli, and want to start to try some aerobatics or mild 3D flying. The on edge dampers will make the heli more responsive.
I really can't say enough about the great service from Gohbee. David @ Gohbee is very helpfull and easy to talk to.
Best regards wheelman

Just curious, is there a cure for this addiction?

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