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09-14-2007 05:34 AM  10 years agoPost 1
freakyreef

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Just curious if anyone has heard anything on a new 50 size Hirobo?
With the new Vibe 50 coming out along with the T-rex 600N is there anything in the works from Hirobo for a new 50 size. The Evo has been out for a while now and I know the EX is available, but the price doesn't compete.
No flames, I am honestly curious.

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09-14-2007 01:19 PM  10 years agoPost 2
MR SLOWFLOW

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next year

give chef hirobo a chance to finish cook'n up the updated evo

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09-14-2007 01:23 PM  10 years agoPost 3
vfastr6

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Here's me hiding behind my PC .......................

Seriously though, you make a good point on the fact that everyone is bringing out new 50 size helis. The Evo 50 is old, granted, but IMHO there is nothing really wrong with the Evo.

I have flown almost all 50 size helis and still find the Evo to be one of the best all-round helis. It is a great 3D heli in stock format, and with minimal changes it become a really hard-core 3D heli (once again IMHO). The CCPM version is killer with fast servos,some v-paddles and some good blades (top and bottom). And parts are friggin cheap to.

Maybe all that needs to happen is an Evo with metal hub and flybar carrier, delrin gears, carbon push-rod for the tail and the 90 tail hub......

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09-14-2007 01:55 PM  10 years agoPost 4
Helijost

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Good a year, it will take me that long to be able to save enough to buy another Hirobo!

Evo 50, Caliber 5, 600N Pro, soon to come MA 450

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09-14-2007 02:01 PM  10 years agoPost 5
Dr Lodge

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The EVO doesn't need any radical changes, just to evolve a little and shed some weight.

So a Shuttle Sceadu EVO squared.

Vibe 90, Vibe 50, Vigor CS x2,
Dyna-x, Knight 503D, Logo 10,
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09-14-2007 02:05 PM  10 years agoPost 6
MR SLOWFLOW

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a lil' botox

and slimfast!

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09-14-2007 02:26 PM  10 years agoPost 7
freakyreef

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Yep, that was going to be one of my points, the weight. I love my Evo, great machine. I wasn't trying to say there was anything wrong with the Evo.
I was just looking at the new 50 machines coming out and was wondering out loud if Hirobo had any plans to design a new ship to compete with the lightweight crowd.

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09-16-2007 08:48 AM  10 years agoPost 8
MJG

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If Hirobo want to stay in the game of selling heli's they must be planning something for the near future. Heli popularity varies around the world but Europe and America must be very important markets. From what I can see, what's selling in the UK in the small electric market is ALIGN TREX, what is selling in the mid size 50 market is ALIGN 600. Shops around my area just can't sell anything else these days, it's what the customers want, it's this years must have. I hear ALIGN have a 90 coming out soon?

Hirobo and the other manufacturers must have been hit pretty hard, their sales charts will be telling them they need to react! The tooling costs to produce models, especially plastic, is not cheap, volume sales are essential to recover costs, but, the way the industry is going, the life span of a model's popularity is getting shorter so it's probably cheaper these days to produce a stacked G10/carbon frame model rather than plastic moulded injection frames. I think Hirobo fans like myself will be looking for a 50 size with stacked frames and light weight carbon options and glass fibre canopy but not at the price that Hirobo have traditionally offered this option!

In my opinion the volume helicopter market is in two sectors 450 Electric and the mid sized nitro 50's. The Lepton appeared but while it is a fantastic machine, it is not offering what I think most of us want, ie low cost 450's, hopefully Hirobo will deliver? The Sceadu is a great flyer but the feathering spindle is still an issue for very aggressive 3D. But, customer demand is proving the the Sceadu just does not stack up against the new ALIGN 600.

ALIGN have set new standards and price points for carbon frames, bling and style - Hirobo need to rise to the competition and offer Hirobo pilots the same.

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09-16-2007 11:41 AM  10 years agoPost 9
bobbyhill4x4

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MJG, great points but I believe that if helicopter makers continue to complete re-kit models then they will also lose the customers, as Kyosho has done in the pass. Hirobo is doing a great job by upgrading and or improving the current kit which inables us with older models to take advantage of the new improvements. I think if Hirobo produced an X-Spec 50 with the carbon side frames and the medal head it will satisfy many flyer with the weight saving, stiffer head and lower cost of the EX.

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09-16-2007 05:58 PM  10 years agoPost 10
MJG

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Hi Freakyreef, Hirobo have already introduced the Secadu EX but it cost a fortune, as a result it's not an every day model like the the Align Pro 600. We need the EX price cut in half to compete

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09-16-2007 07:26 PM  10 years agoPost 11
casper7

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Hirobo need to do something to get people re - interested in the EVO 50. Two LHS in my area have stopped selling The EVOs and are not going to stock any more parts once they have sold what they have. They say demand is very poor for the EVO.

I have one EVO 50 and one 600N and they are both great in their own right, but it would be a shame to seem the EVO become a rare heli, with little support.

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09-17-2007 01:49 AM  10 years agoPost 12
HOTROD2

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Mechanically I think the EVO is great for the most part but it really does need a major frame and canopy facelift, (hopefully losing about a pound in the process) to compete in the current market. I have a new 600N that is just about ready to go and the servo,radio equipment layout and looks are way ahead of my EVO IMHO. I have yet to see how it flys though.

T-rex 600N, EVO 50, T-rex 450 x2, DX7

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09-17-2007 01:55 AM  10 years agoPost 13
freakyreef

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The Evo ex did renew some interest I think, but the price puts it out of reach for many. I guess what I am looking for is an evolution of the Evo. Lose a pound or so of weight, make a few minor tweaks and the such. Carbon frames would be great, but look at the cost of the aftermarket ones..
I know, you can't get a Caddy on a Buick budget. Wishful thinking on my part.
I am willing to bet money that something is in the works already.

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09-17-2007 02:50 AM  10 years agoPost 14
tadawson

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I don't know about you guys, but I think the Sceadu canopy looks light years better than the 600N. The 600N reminds me a lot of the Raptor - ass-bang ugly!

- Tim

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09-17-2007 02:58 AM  10 years agoPost 15
z11355

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you're daydreaming if you think they can magically remove a pound
of weight from the machine.

the 600N & Evo are within a few oz's of each other as they currently stand.

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09-17-2007 07:34 AM  10 years agoPost 16
naked painter

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Price doesn't compete?

In the UK you can pick the EVos up for £199. This makes them very reasonable.

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09-17-2007 09:04 AM  10 years agoPost 17
MJG

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Hi Nakedpainter, "EX price cut in half to compete" I was talking about the EX version, not the Evo. I agree the Evo is a fantastic price but that's partly because the retailers are dumping them off the shelves as fast as they can. Don't get me wrong, I really like Hirobo, but, I want an affordable version of the EX on the market then we can easily compete with the 600Pro and not look like were running old fashioned gear.

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09-17-2007 11:59 PM  10 years agoPost 18
freakyreef

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I was under the impression that the Evo is nearly 3/4 of a lb heavier than the 600N. I know the Evo is very stable in the air and losing some of that weight wont help stability, but it would make it quicker on the sticks.
I too like the looks of the Sceadu canopy.
BTW, whats the dry weight on the EX?

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09-18-2007 04:07 AM  10 years agoPost 19
tadawson

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Most of the comparisons I have seen have it within a couple of ounces with similar equipment. Nowhere near 3/4lb unless you like to carry bricks around in your Evo, or have an older NiCd battery there, and a Lipo in the TR.

- Tim

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09-18-2007 04:26 AM  10 years agoPost 20
Brian Bennett

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Love all three of mine. Proud to be a member of the Hirobo MRC family/team. I have owned quite a few makes and have the means to fly whatever I could want, but its the Hirobo Products + Jeff Green's continued support that give me the fahrfigflyinuten!

B

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