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09-14-2007 07:26 PM  10 years agoPost 21
Vance

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^Exhaust heat distortion.

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09-14-2007 07:33 PM  10 years agoPost 22
GimbalFan (RIP)

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Yeah, I thought that might be it, but it also looks a little like the location of the airfield was being disguised.

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09-14-2007 07:38 PM  10 years agoPost 23
mac24

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Lucky son of a gun

You got a ride and flew 80% of the time, wow
Man, you did what most of us dream about...

I would be glad with the ride alone, to fly this superjet is the ultimate dream.

Better than getting laid I suppose

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09-14-2007 11:35 PM  10 years agoPost 24
RC-Heli-Boy

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Man, thats cool! Is there anyway we can do that here in Ontario, Canada?

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09-15-2007 12:05 AM  10 years agoPost 25
Raptor3DPilot

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Pretty much getting the incentive ride was payment for many 12 hour shifts (with no overtime) for the past 8 years combined. I know I deserved one so yes, it was nice. I don't agree with alot of the admin, ops, and finance folks that get them but I definitely feel that 90% of flightline maintainers deserve one, especially the crew chiefs. All it takes is one screw up to not get one though.

We were just in Cold Lake, CA about 2 months ago and we whipped on some F-18 butts! HAHA J/K

Yeah I did fly about 80% of the time. I even taxied all the way to the runway. I definitely showed the pilot I knew what I was doing because I understood each maneuver he wanted and was able to execute each of them just as he wanted. I loved the "Split-S", which is you roll inverted and pull straight back on the stick to a half circle and come out level. There was another maneuver that we did but I can't remember the name of it (a well known name in the fighter pilot world) I basically pulled it straight back into a climb and as we came over the top I rolled it over top side up. I caught myself off guard a couple of times pushing slightly forward on the stick (negative g-s) to lose altitude, but he would quickly remind me to roll the aircraft onto the side and let the nose fall do desired altitiude and roll it back out.

Man this flight has definitely motivated me to get my butt in gear and get my plane/helicopter license. After my wife saw the pics of me in the flight suit, she's even thinking about letting me go Warrant Officer in the Army and fly helicopters for them. It's all really up in the air though.

Thanks for the comments and I'll post more pics when I get back home in a couple weeks.

Remember when flying inverted that down is up and up is EXPENSIVE!

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09-15-2007 12:48 AM  10 years agoPost 26
bowman

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Rappy3d
I would say that you might be reffering to the max Immelma manuever,

but that was a loop followed by a roll 1/2 and 1/2. or was it straight the hell up and then a 1/2 a roll?

eitherway

Must have been an awesome Ride.

I certainly was in the right! .....( toecutter at the spot) Phalanxman 6

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09-15-2007 04:38 AM  10 years agoPost 27
andres.c

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congrats on the ride

at least yours was inside unlike these guys



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09-15-2007 04:53 AM  10 years agoPost 28
bowman

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woo!!!

you can get no more bad azz then that right there.

I certainly was in the right! .....( toecutter at the spot) Phalanxman 6

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09-15-2007 07:10 PM  10 years agoPost 29
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Rappy3d
I would say that you might be reffering to the max Immelma manuever,

but that was a loop followed by a roll 1/2 and 1/2. or was it straight the hell up and then a 1/2 a roll?
Uhhh honestly I don't completely remember, but the name sounds familiar.

Remember when flying inverted that down is up and up is EXPENSIVE!

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09-15-2007 07:12 PM  10 years agoPost 30
Raptor3DPilot

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man I can't imagine they would let them sit on the side of those apaches like that!! I would definitely do that one.

Remember when flying inverted that down is up and up is EXPENSIVE!

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09-17-2007 05:42 PM  10 years agoPost 31
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man I can't imagine they would let them sit on the side of those apaches like that!! I would definitely do that one.
Here's one of the reasons. I know the pictures above don't represent the actions below, but it may be one of the reasons why it's done.
No Medals for "Strap-On Marines" in AFG Apache Rescue
« on: September 08, 2007, 21:48:43 »
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Remember "Strapped onto the wings of an Apache - RM rescue fallen comrade under fire" from earlier this year?

The latest: no medals the strap-on Marines - shared with the usual disclaimer....

Marines tied to helicopters snubbed in rescue medals
Michael Smith, Sunday Times (UK), 9 Sept 07
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THREE Royal Marines who embarked on one of the most daring rescue missions of the war in Afghanistan – by strapping themselves to the sides of attack helicopters – have been denied medals.

Their treatment is at odds with the decorations handed out to airmen and soldiers on the same mission. The pilots received the Distinguished Flying Cross, their co-pilots the Military Cross and an army officer also strapped to a helicopter the Military Cross.

This weekend army officers suggested that the marines were the victims of double standards, and had been snubbed because their superiors had written less glowing citations.

The decision has sparked a caustic debate among service personnel on Army Rumour Service , an internet forum. A number suggested such heroism was nothing out of the ordinary for the marines. One former sailor calling himself “Ancient Mariner” wrote: “I believe it’s covered in week 7 of the [Royal Marines’] course at Lympstone [Devon], just after the ‘leaping over tall buildings in a single bound’ module and before they learn to make bullets bounce off their chest.”

A former marine, posting as Old Booty, added that the medals were unimportant. “What is worth more, to become a corps’ legend and go down in history as ‘one of those nutters on the Apaches’, or a medal?”

The MoD used the operation in January to demonstrate how brave British troops in Afghanistan were, with one commander describing it as a “heroic leap in the dark”. “It was an extraordinary tale of heroism and bravery,” said Lieutenant-Colonel Rory Bruce.

But while the airmen and soldiers received full recognition, the three marines – Warrant Officer Class 1 Colin Hearn, Marine Gary Robinson and Marine Chris Fraser-Perry – received nothing.

The rescue occurred after Lance-Corporal Mathew Ford was wounded in an attack on Taliban leaders meeting in Jugroom Fort, south of Garmsir in Helmand. The attack was repulsed but Ford was left behind.

The Apache attack helicopter pilots suggested they could fly in, but with room for only a pilot and co-pilot on each helicopter the rescue team would have to be strapped to the sides.

Despite the danger, there was no shortage of volunteers. Hearn, a regimental sergeant-major, insisted he go. “I’m a Royal Marine, he’s a Royal Marine – there was no way we were ever going to leave him.”

Captain Dave Rigg, 30, an army engineer, was also one of the first volunteers and Fraser-Perry, 19, from Southport, Mer-seyside, said: “I felt it had to be done. I would expect the same done for me.” The fourth volunteer was Robinson, 26, from Rosyth, Fife.

They knew the Taliban would be waiting. They were disorientated when they jumped off the helicopters and one of the Apache co-pilots, Staff Sergeant Keith Armatage, ran to help, brandishing his pistol.

The five men now on the ground managed to find Ford, but he had died of his wounds. The Taliban fired on the two Apaches on the ground and the crew tried to fire back while a third Apache provided covering fire.

The team brought back Ford’s body strapped to the side of one of the helicopters, but had no time to strap themselves back on. They clung to the wings all the way back to Camp Bastion.

Rigg received the Military Cross, but the failure of the three marines to get a medal for their bravery was raised in a letter to Navy News this month by Lou Armour, a former marine.

The MoD refused to comment.

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09-17-2007 10:19 PM  10 years agoPost 32
sharam

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Wow, what a story! Thanks.

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09-17-2007 11:42 PM  10 years agoPost 33
Raptor3DPilot

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cool, thanks for the story!

Remember when flying inverted that down is up and up is EXPENSIVE!

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