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09-13-2007 04:04 PM  10 years agoPost 1
zsultan

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Which one do you guys recommend? In the event of crash dont you think just replacing the boom is cheaper than replacing boom and torque tube?

I am planning on getting a 600N cannot decide pro or sport version.

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09-13-2007 04:11 PM  10 years agoPost 2
kingair

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In the event of crash dont you think just replacing the boom is cheaper than replacing boom and torque tube?
Replacing just the boom is probably cheaper than replacing the boom and torque tube.

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09-13-2007 06:28 PM  10 years agoPost 3
antsdd

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i have bent my boom 3 times and not had to change my torque tube yet i just straightened it not ideal but it flys great i have only stripped one set of gears in my 3 crashes so i think they stand up great i no some say they have stripped gears just touching lightly but i have come down hard hovering nose in so hard i snapped a undercaridge strut but still no stripped gears so i would say go for the pro they are a nice bird and you get a alloy tail instead of plastic i think it is very sturdy i have abused mine alot i got one of the first uk helis in may the one with no manual just cd and i have had no problems at all apart from the nut flying it put it this way its a good job spars are cheap and plentiful as like captain crazy will tell you if i flew as much as he does there would be a national shortage of spares i would not be put off of the tought of replacing the torque tube its not that much anyway £11.39 at fast lads here in the uk and £5 for a belt which in a good crash you could easliy strip teeth of so i mean come on guys whats £6 thats all the differnce and if you ar botherd about that small amout you neet to take up knitting

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09-13-2007 07:02 PM  10 years agoPost 4
raptor50luvver

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I have a Pro and a belt one,the belt is very good but the TT is nice and precise,i have also had a couple of bumpy autos and dug the tail in on the Pro and the gears are fine..

At this moment i am preferring the TT,in fact i have just upgraded my 600E with one as i hear it will slighlty help duration

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09-13-2007 07:02 PM  10 years agoPost 5
Zaneman007

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In the event of crash
Pull out the wallet, period.

There are some posts in this forum of 600N's that hit so hard the OS50 snapped in two! Yet, all they can do is complain about the CF frames not holding up and how costly they are? They never mention that the OS50, the GY611, and regulator didn't hold up either?

If you are worried about the cost of replacement parts, buy a cheaper heli? No, I can't recommend that.

The 600N pro is a great heli. And overall, Align helis are not that costly to repair. But, it depends on how hard you hit the ground. When you buy spare parts, some of the parts come in packs of two, booms, main shaft, and flybar. I have replaced two tail booms, but only one torque tube?

Get what you want, and fly it like your wife paid for it.

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09-13-2007 07:43 PM  10 years agoPost 6
LJS

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Hi All,

I bought the Sport. My reasoning is that I'm still just starting out and that it would be cheaper to buy and cheaper to fix. Even though I haven't crashed it in seven gallons of fuel, I still think that my decision was a good one.

After about 400 flights (70 of them on the TRex) I am doing loops, rolls, inverted flight and hovering, stall turns, slow and fast pirouettes and more. I don't think that the Sport version is limiting me or will limit me in the future. Having less to lose reduces the intimidation factor in trying new maneuvers.

So for less than the price of a Raptor, I have a top-notch helicopter that will do anything I am capable of. Why spend more???

Keep 'em flying.
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09-13-2007 08:25 PM  10 years agoPost 7
Captain Crazy

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Wakefield, England

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Im buying a Pro version very soon, TT all the way for me!.Cant wait

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09-13-2007 08:31 PM  10 years agoPost 8
DS 8717

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Theres a 3D pro version thats belt drive..

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09-13-2007 08:35 PM  10 years agoPost 9
MasterCrash

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Gassaway, Tennessee

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Belt versus tube?

A long time shoot out BUT;
Torque tubes are less power robbing due to less friction, I tested this for my self, the torque tube assembly spins far longer on a spool down then the belt; so , auto rotations are more successfull and rebuilding the TREX 600's torque tube is a snap compaired to the Raptor 90 torque tube and all other belt systems.
The pilot in my club swears a better and more rapid response from the torque tube and so far 3 crashes [mishaps?] without a main torque shaft replacement. Some crashes he had to replace parts and I must say it was faster and easier [NOT cheaper] then the belt.
If your a beginner in the crashing stages, I would recommend a belt drive for those grass cutting moments with the tail rotor digging ditches on a sloppy landing. They [belts] are more forgiving, but I am amazed at how rugged the Align torque tube system holds up to an occasional Oooppps. I can't say this for all torque tube designs, just for the Align Trex 600 Nitro or Elect.
My buddy that flys it says he will never go back to the belt again?
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09-13-2007 08:44 PM  10 years agoPost 10
Justin Barry

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Prescott Arizona

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The belt version is good for doing basic 3d, the tail will hold good and in the event of a crash, it will cost a lot less. the TT however will hold a lot better during harder 3d manuevers but it will cost more if you take out the TT. i myself have a TT vesion and i could not be happier



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09-13-2007 08:48 PM  10 years agoPost 11
DS 8717

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The belts dont always survive a crash,they do get damaged....The belt is not very robust and is kinda small.

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09-13-2007 09:11 PM  10 years agoPost 12
AzHyper

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Peoria, Az.

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One thing to think about is that the TT tail case is open. If you auto into sandy material you may kick up enough material to damage the gears. The belt drive tail case is enclosed so that helps protect it. I suppose the next thing Align will come up with is a clear lexan snap-on cover for the TT tail box...

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09-13-2007 09:48 PM  10 years agoPost 13
helibird

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St. George, UT

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The belt version is good for doing basic 3d
The belt is capable of "hard" 3d just as much as the TT. I fly the belt version and while I'm no Alan Szabo I throw it around pretty good (chaos, piro flips, rainbows,etc). The belt is deffinately not a weak point or anything that will fail under hard 3d. I'm planning on trying the TT later on just out of curiousity but I don't see it making a huge difference.
The belts dont always survive a crash,they do get damaged....The belt is not very robust and is kinda small.
True but the belt only costs like 7 bucks so even if it is damaged it's still a lot cheaper then the TT.

In the end I've been really happy with my standard 600N flies light years better then my raptors did, and it is a lot better in an auto then the raptors as well.

You'll be happy with either they are both great machines.

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