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09-13-2007 11:48 AM  10 years agoPost 1
TEDDYWILK

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any info on running in a new engine in the heli on a static stand? should i use a 50MM smaller blade set to reduce the load? I know on my full scale cessna the RPM is reduced by at least 10% when doing a static runup. I searched the forum for a thread but cant find any. I have a regular engine stand but I would like run this in the heli to be able to make adjustment
Farmer Ted

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09-13-2007 12:14 PM  10 years agoPost 2
Busher

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Get yourself a set of 50 size headloaders, these will allow you to run you heli without any blades, and still give you enough room to make adjustments, without any fear of the heli taking off.

Good luck
Busher

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09-13-2007 12:40 PM  10 years agoPost 3
bald eagle

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all new engines really dont need break in just fly on the rich side a couple of flights and start leaning to the happy place.
spend the time and the fuel in the air not on the bench

thanks jeff

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09-13-2007 01:44 PM  10 years agoPost 4
TEDDYWILK

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head loaders

Im playing with a webra ABN and to rich is not good either so Id lke to adjust while its running. I want to try to go with no nitro. where can I find these head loader or can I make a set?
Farmer Ted

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09-13-2007 02:19 PM  10 years agoPost 5
Swoop

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You don't have to run it pig rich, just on the rich side. Check your temps and make sure your getting to the low side of operating temp. Allow to cool between tanks. Lean it out to a good power setting (and running temp) after couple of tanks then thrash it.

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09-13-2007 03:56 PM  10 years agoPost 6
TEDDYWILK

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temps

what are the opinions on temps for a ringless ABN, no nitro webra? I havent seen any numbers anywhere.

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09-13-2007 04:18 PM  10 years agoPost 7
Raffy

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running in a new engine in the heli on a static stand
Danger Zone!

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09-13-2007 05:07 PM  10 years agoPost 8
AceBird

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can I make a set?
Make’em

Ace
What could be more fun?

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09-13-2007 06:04 PM  10 years agoPost 9
crv

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Where can one aquire a "Head Loader" set, ("running-In-Aid", .50 size...here in the States???

(Plz...not if their good, don't use them, you can use something else, try this or that,)

Just plain ol' simple and concise..."Where can one aquire a set???
Thanks!!!!!

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09-13-2007 10:46 PM  10 years agoPost 10
Big Edge

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You don't have to run it pig rich, just on the rich side. Check your temps and make sure your getting to the low side of operating temp. Allow to cool between tanks. Lean it out to a good power setting (and running temp) after couple of tanks then thrash it.
all new engines really dont need break in just fly on the rich side a couple of flights and start leaning to the happy place.
spend the time and the fuel in the air not on the bench

thanks jeff
As suggested above...
Any engine I have broken in with kid gloves did'nt last any longer.
Fly it!

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09-14-2007 01:15 PM  10 years agoPost 11
Busher

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I am sorry I can't give you a distributor for the states, but here is a UK link which will show yo what I mean.

Look on the head loader section and they are there!
http://www.rcmodels.org/index.htm

Good luck
Busher

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09-14-2007 06:03 PM  10 years agoPost 12
AceBird

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As you can see, anything that is structurally strong enough to handle its own weight at RPM providing drag will work.

Ace
What could be more fun?

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09-14-2007 11:54 PM  10 years agoPost 13
wlouigene

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All you need to do is bring your heli to the field, and all your friends will take turn flying it, and before you know it your engine will be ready. At lease that the way I did

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09-15-2007 01:17 AM  10 years agoPost 14
Yug

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Head loaders are potentially very dangerous because they can compress non-uniformly resulting in severe out of balance. They can also explode. Mounting a heli on a run up stand is also potentially dangerous, particularly during spool up/down when the HS is around 800 because of resonances that rapidly build up. This depends largely on how rigidly the heli is mounted as to the defining resonant frequency. Have a look at the chinook video, scary stuff.
Best way to run in an engine is in the heli and flying it.

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09-15-2007 02:20 AM  10 years agoPost 15
falcon447

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Teddywilk

Here is a link for ya out of England.The pictures are good enough for you to make if you wanted to. It is up to you if you want to use headloaders or fly and break in your motor.

Headloaders.com

Brian

Thanks to all the brave service people who serve our country!

Brian (ViperDraggs) Jones

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09-15-2007 04:37 AM  10 years agoPost 16
dkshema

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Cedar Rapids, IA

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Put the motor in your heli, start with the manufacturer's recommended needle settings, run rich to begin with, gradually lean out the needles. Fly the darn thing as you break it in. It doesn't take that long, it's not difficult, and you don't run the risk experiencing the dangers of running a tied-down helicopter (ground resonance is real in these small helis.

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Dave

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09-15-2007 10:02 AM  10 years agoPost 17
Yug

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Here's what I was talking about............
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...303336171660489

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09-15-2007 10:34 AM  10 years agoPost 18
MrMel

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Do you wanna stand next to the heli doing adjustments?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko8Yp3Kv6Is

I wouldnt.

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09-15-2007 01:00 PM  10 years agoPost 19
AceBird

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This head loader is made from clear oak has a 3/8 dia. Al bushing to spread the load of the pivot screw. The end grain is tripple wrapped with fiberglass and resin. They are 15" long made from 3/4 X 15/16 stock and weight less than 1/2 of what a set of woodies do.

There is no lift with head loaders so there is no ground effect. I love the display of ignorance. Yeah, buy a used heli and go fly it; real smart.

Ace
What could be more fun?

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09-15-2007 04:56 PM  10 years agoPost 20
wlouigene

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I love the display of ignorance. Yeah, buy a used heli and go fly it; real smart
Sorry we just simply try to help, anyone with good sense knows that if you buy a used heli you need to go through it a fine tooth comb.

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