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09-15-2007 07:41 AM  10 years agoPost 61
dazzaster

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did i mention anything about entering a competition, i said every one has there own idea of how a scale should look. if every one had the same idea of how they should look then every scale would be the same. i simply stated that i like to have the power plant where it should be and the cabin free from any mecanics as seen on the rotortrch jetranger and the vario skycrane and vario bell 47.

im not the one whom thinks its ok to take off from near my "support vehicle" while in the pits and hover taxi to the flight line because its a scale manouver tottaly ingnoring the rules. thats ingnorant,

so please think before you call someone ignorant.
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09-15-2007 09:11 AM  10 years agoPost 62
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[quote]im not the one whom thinks its ok to take off from near my "support vehicle" while in the pits and hover taxi to the flight line because its a scale manouver tottaly ingnoring the rules. thats ingnorant,

i thought you said in a prev post you could not see at all what was argumentative, it is 9am on a saturday morning and you have started picking at Peter already.

If the only thing you can pick on Peter for is you catching him once taking off from the pit area at his club then you really are sad.
Yes he broke the rules, but i think you will find he was onhis own, still no excuse, but this is not a thread about that, if you wanna have a pop start a new thread.

Was other people there ?i bet Pete was on his own judging by the photo's,

this thread is about turbines, not breaking any so called rules.

As Peter put it you are ignorant and have little knowledge on a subject you keep spouting on about,

I wish i knew all there was to know about turbines and scale flying, all i do know is i love flying a turbine,

Get outside and go do some flying, the wind here 2mph this morning i am charging up the XLV as i type and i am off for some seriouse flying

Matt

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09-15-2007 09:14 AM  10 years agoPost 63
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think before you call someone ignorant.

dazzaster,Speaking from ignorance, does not imply you are totally ignorant, just, you do not know much about the subject you are talking about.
there own idea of how a scale should look

If it is your own idea how scale should look, then it is not scale
AS to the rest of your dribble, when you fly off private land (not a club site)and when you are by your self,you make your own rules, and abide by the land owners rules
At other times flying off private land, in company with other flyers, you make your own rules depending on the site and conditions
These are some photos of a flying site, with minimun take off and landing area, your club should know it well, the land owner offered this site to them, during the last big foot and mouth outbreak,( why does that remind me of you) Turbine master and baboard both ( your fellow club committee members)achieved their A certificates here,(nothing else since)

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09-15-2007 09:38 AM  10 years agoPost 64
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yes peter and the club was very grtefull to that landowner, even they didnt have to vacate the club field because of the foot and mouth they thought it was a responsable thing to do and the club was and is gratefull to that land owner for allowing them to fly on his land.
and yes on private land you do abide by the landowners rules but at the same time you have to take into account the bmfa rules.
the club at which i fly at is on private land and we have to abide by the landowners rules, the same as the club you fly at, but at the same timew the mfa rules are still in place.
a scale helicopter is a scaled down version of the full size version.
my idea of scale is simply to get it looking like the full size, and on a full size (for example) jet ranger i donot see the fuel tank sitting on the back seat of the heli with a metal strut and gears and pulleys next to that.

enjoy the nice day.
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09-15-2007 09:55 AM  10 years agoPost 65
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Dazaster

Stop banging on and on and on, This thread is about Turbines,
not
pits ,fields,rules,etc
It has nothing to do with the thread take this outside or start up another thread on BMFA rules,

It is pointless banter that is detracting from the thread.

Yet another thread Darren you have sent down the pan with your unconstructive comments.

For the record, On most of the Vario scale models it is hard to hide the mechanics as most are based around the PHT3, now the 2 stage has come, and scale fuses are out like the MIL and the skycrane it will make it easier to do full scale cockpit. if that is you want to do.

I prefer personally concentraing on the flying rather than have a nice shelf model. I like to see a model fly scale like, that to me is where the skill lies, and where the points can be earned.

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09-15-2007 10:22 AM  10 years agoPost 66
PETER ROB

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my idea of scale is simply to get it looking​like the full size

Dazzaster, Like Matt said, your masters are jerking your chain, acording to your own history, you were not a member of that club, if fact you were not even flying then
As your masters will tell you The BMFA set out guide lines not rules, and it is up to the club to impliment, these guidelines to suit the club, and its flying site
my idea of scale is simply to get it looking like the full size
You carry on about getting it to look like the full size, question are you actually building a scale at this time, or, are you trying to make readers of these post, believe you actually do build scale
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09-15-2007 04:33 PM  10 years agoPost 67
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Hi peter,
For your information I am my own master I don’t need anyone to tell me what to say or do.
“According to your own history, you were not a member of that club, if fact you were not even flying then”
no I wasn’t there I have heard what happened, how do I know there version of event is right well as you well know the club keeps a good record of events times and minutes of meeting, some of non confidential documents I have readtaken the time to read as I don’t intending on comment on just what Is hear say.

As for the bmfa handbook doesn’t matter what’s written down in it there’s one rule that we all have a legal duty to comply with, that is article 74 of the air navigation order which states “a person shall not recklessly or negligently cause or permit an aircraft to endanger any person or property” that law covers all full size and model flying even when flying on your own you can breach this act by flying close to yourself and vehicle .as any person does not just mean someone else but also your self.
Why do I go on about it because I care, not for you of course but because of the knock on effect that it may have on the rest of us who choose to carry out our activities with a little common sense.

“question are you actually building a scale at this time”
yes thank you as posted previously im working on some mods, mainly to get the turbine to sit in the same position it would on the full size. (fyi lama).

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09-15-2007 05:27 PM  10 years agoPost 68
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With all due respect. This thread started as a friendly thread where it was asked what was special about flying turbine helicopters, and now it has turned into a personal vendetta.

Not only is this argument totally irrellevant to what was the original topic, it is also completely uninteresting to read the three of you arguing about who is building what, or if the heli was carried or flown to the flight line.

Please stop this vendetta, as it is getting boring to the extreme - and honour the original topic insted.

Tried planks, but after all, wood is best on the bonfire.

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09-15-2007 05:55 PM  10 years agoPost 69
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not a problem
i enjoy flying turbines because of the smell the sound and the feel of them. i especially like it on a dark evening just as sunset going down and you can see a nice blue flame from the exahust.
and the thought that your only useing 1/3 of the available raw power.
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09-15-2007 07:39 PM  10 years agoPost 70
PETER ROB

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Please stop this vendetta,

Helihover,Could not agree with you more,this morning I sent a PM to wlfk, asking him to close the topic, I do not think he has received it yet
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09-15-2007 07:43 PM  10 years agoPost 71
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i also agree hence the above post
i enjoy flying turbines because of the smell the sound and the feel of them. i especially like it on a dark evening just as sunset going down and you can see a nice blue flame from the exahust.
and the thought that your only useing 1/3 of the available raw power.
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09-15-2007 10:22 PM  10 years agoPost 72
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Well,

I think my original question has well and truly been answered. Sounds as if I need to get to see (hear, smell...) one of these things in action. Thanks for all your replies to me.

On those grounds, I'd agree that it is time to close the topic, if I can work out how!

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