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09-14-2007 05:35 PM  10 years agoPost 41
MattJen

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Daz i know the machine you are talking about,
i have seen it in the flesh, it is a lovely machine, and does look indeed scale, it is nice the wren is at the top of the fuse away like it is in the full size one. i agree on that point.

I would not service a wren turbine and if you are honest i doubt you would either - so both of us would have to send our machines back to be serviced.

If i am honest you do seem to do alot of talking, but never any flying, or any evidence to substantiate your claims. you go on about a lot of stuff, from people at your own club say you have only ever hoverd a turbine, and then were going to build a turbine, but got rid of your vario acro gassers to fund aproject,

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09-14-2007 05:44 PM  10 years agoPost 42
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Is your calculation any better than your spelling

whats spelling got to do with a turbine. now being able to read and folow club/bmfa rules is more important than being able to spell but then that nothing to do with turbines either.

as for your scale peter yes i agree its a nice scale and i mean what i said on another post it was very nice top see it flying ,
and no there is no evidence of what i have built, every one has there own idea of how a scale should be, if we all ad the same idea life would be very boreing wouldnt it.
matt
yes i would service a wren, yes its a turbine but its only a case of takeing it apart and following the instructions.
and yes i sold the gasser and the turbine and got my self another turbine and a bit of spare dosh to carry on with a project.
and no one at my own club has made comment towards you about me only hovering have they!
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09-14-2007 05:46 PM  10 years agoPost 43
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Also i would like to add

The reason you don't often hear about jetcat servicing, is that most of them, only go back, after the service hours have run out, that's to my knowledge.

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09-14-2007 05:47 PM  10 years agoPost 44
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The reason why multi-bladed scale flyers go for jetcat is the governer, with multi blade heads it is critical to have a constant RPM at the head. that is fact.

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09-14-2007 06:00 PM  10 years agoPost 45
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The reason you don't often hear about jetcat servicing, is that most of them, only go back, after the service hours have run out, that's to my knowledge.
and thats why your three month old turbine is for sale. with recent service??

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09-14-2007 06:05 PM  10 years agoPost 46
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Darren

You are correct, 3 months i have had it, but the run time on the turbine is 23hrs, Jetcat say 20hrs for each service which backs up my above post. if you ever owned a turbine and flew it for 20hrs rather than let it collect dust you would know this.

I sell my machines that i have flown and setup myself in top notch condition and for my own piece of mind which you would have to agree with when you buy a turbine you want it in the best flyable condition.

And when i say serviced i mean software upgraded to the latest version, which i as a responsible seller would want for anyone buying a machine off of me.

And there are plenty of happy people that have bought my old hellies that i have set up myself and have been impressed with the stability and cleanliness of my machines.

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09-14-2007 06:09 PM  10 years agoPost 47
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good for you and good luck with the sales.

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09-14-2007 06:25 PM  10 years agoPost 48
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also to add i dont think anyone keeps a turbine on the shelf as its to nice a machine to leave sitting there, as you said 20 hrs service with jetcat, with wren you only need to service at around 70 hrs if flown in normall conditions as the turbine is working less than a third of its full potential in a helicopter.
so for every 3 times you send a jetcat away you only need to send a wren away once, or doit yourself, unless of course you should encouter any problems before the 70 hours, and it doesnt take much to work out that thats a saveing.
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09-14-2007 06:47 PM  10 years agoPost 49
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Darren
come on Mate, this picking apart posts is annoying.

As you are so pro wren and saying it is a saving, why did you sell your wren turbine after such a short time of owning one, by the way a turbine you never talked about or have shown?

If they are as reliable and so cheap to run etc, why did you get rid of yours at the first oportunity.

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09-14-2007 06:54 PM  10 years agoPost 50
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for the record,
i have only ever sent one turbine back for a service

MY PHT3 went back as it needed the belts upgrading to 9MM from 6MM whilst it was there they replaced the 2nd stage pully and replaced the bearing, i was not charged for this.
They also upgraded the software from V4.9 to V5.

The acrobatic went back for a service cos Peter crashed it into a tree i think anyone would send it back for a service after a mis hap like that wouldn't you ?

and unless you are a whizz at engineering and can use a lathe and mill, i would let the manufacterer service my turbines. just as it is done on the full size!!
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09-14-2007 06:55 PM  10 years agoPost 51
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didnt get rid of it at the first oportunity a man with a dog made came up with an offer i couldnt refuse. and managed to get myself a lathe and mill with the spare dosh
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09-14-2007 06:59 PM  10 years agoPost 52
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[quote] a man with a dog made came up with an offer i couldnt refuse.

so someone made you a good offer after you having it for a short time and you got rid of it there and then, ie first oportunity.

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09-14-2007 07:10 PM  10 years agoPost 53
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no the other way around ... some one offered me another turbine (thats the man with a dog). but to buy that i had to sell my acrobat turbine and take a bit of money from my bank account to complete the deal, and at the same time i couldnt see the point of flying the gasser acrobat after i had been flying the turbine version so i sold that as well which paid for the machinery
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09-14-2007 07:28 PM  10 years agoPost 54
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cool

so what turbine have you got ?

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09-14-2007 07:38 PM  10 years agoPost 55
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its still a wren (unrun) but came with a nice unfinished airframe which for now ild like to keep hush as its a mod im working on.
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09-14-2007 07:49 PM  10 years agoPost 56
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Matt

Why do you argue or rise the bait with this individual who uses aliasis to argue with himself on a world public forum.

In the 75 threads that dazaster has posted 37 of them have ended up being closed due arguments errupting.

Why Mark tolerates this i will never understand, you get fired up to easily mate,hence the reason for 2 of your posts highlighted in pink.

Listen for once, DONT RISE TO THE BAIT.

It is obviosuly this individual has no experience in flying model hellies, all his posts confirm this, and now he is working on mechanics to fit a wren turbine, after getting rid of a fully running and flyable machine, the only machne he has ever talked about building is a TREX 600n, and now he thinks takng a turbine is simply a matter of following the intructions and is straight forward, come on give us some credit we were not born yesterday.

You can see all afternoon he has baited PeterRob, but Peter has alot of practical knowledge and years of building experience to put this individual in his place,also what this individual fails to realise is that Peter is a respected authority on Jetcat turbines, and scale models and model building in general, hence the reason Dazaster has had no where to go.
So now he turns his attention to you who rises so easily to the bait.

Matt you give people the wrong idea about you and this guy brings the worst out in you, as do his other pals, who do exactly the same, put in little bits of info, hoping to cause an arugment, they then back away at the right time as Mark closes it.

Dont fall for it, you are an Ok guy, who has alot of passion for this hobby, on here you sometimes can come accross an idiot when i know and others know you are not.

So put him on ignore. and give us all a break from this pointless banter.

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09-14-2007 08:04 PM  10 years agoPost 57
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james im not going to get into an argment with you. but your last statement has nothing to do with posting about helicopter and is another personel attack that couls of simply been kept to a email or pm.
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09-14-2007 08:08 PM  10 years agoPost 58
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Darren

I am not going to waste my breath or energy arguing with you, you have baited matt and Peter all afternoon with pointless rubbish.

I have given Matt good advice, to put you on ignore, then you wont have anyone else to argue with.

Period

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09-14-2007 08:12 PM  10 years agoPost 59
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i cant see where theres been an argument , is all i see is a discusion about turbine engines that got turned into a discusion on turbines fitting into sclaes and serviceing which then rolled into a discusion about what ive been upto lately with my helis.
wheres the harm in that healthy conversasion?
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09-14-2007 11:27 PM  10 years agoPost 60
PETER ROB

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every one has there own idea of how a scale should be, if we all ad the same idea life would be very

Darren, again you speak from ignorance,
In a scale competition, points are scored for having the correct documentation for the heli you are scaling.
To what degree you follow the full size documentation , determines, what your static score will be.
No two helicopters are exactly alike ( for a start their call signs will be different) therefore, it will only become boring, to someone, who has not got a real interest in the subject.
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