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09-12-2007 07:28 PM  10 years agoPost 1
ripley

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I'm think about purchasing a gv-1 but the specs say it requires an 8 ch radio is this correct or is there a work around for this?

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09-12-2007 07:30 PM  10 years agoPost 2
inkspot1967

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do yourself a favor and buy a atg instead the gv1 is alright but the atg is way better.

you can use a gv1 on a 7ch but you wont be able to turn it on or off on a switch is all

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09-12-2007 07:33 PM  10 years agoPost 3
z11355

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any of the modern governors (not the GV1) only need 1 channel
to control them. nothing special about the ATG in that regard.

ATG
Multigov
CSM
TJ

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09-12-2007 07:37 PM  10 years agoPost 4
ripley

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so if I purchased the atg could I use it with my jr 6 channel heli radio?

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09-12-2007 07:43 PM  10 years agoPost 5
inkspot1967

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you need 7ch to use it

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09-12-2007 07:46 PM  10 years agoPost 6
ripley

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ok thx. Where can I look at the specs and price for an ATG?

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09-12-2007 07:46 PM  10 years agoPost 7
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The only governor I know of that does not require a spare channel on your radio (meaning you could use it on a 6 channel system) is the Model Avionics Throttle Jockey. There may be others out there.

You will need to borrow a tach from a buddy, though...

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09-12-2007 07:47 PM  10 years agoPost 8
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Have people had good results with the Throttle Jockey?

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09-12-2007 07:48 PM  10 years agoPost 9
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I believe you can use a 6-ch radio with ATG. You can set RPM using buttons on the unit but you cannot turn it off in flight. It will be ON in all modes.

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09-12-2007 07:50 PM  10 years agoPost 10
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the throttle jockey is an awsome governor. I use the TJ Rev Max which is supposed to be a little better. and sofar i love it.

you can use it with a 6ch rx with no problems. you adjust the throttle limits using the POT on the TJ. you just need a Tachometer or a friend with one.

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09-12-2007 07:51 PM  10 years agoPost 11
jackheli

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I have them in all my helis. Very good response and easy to setup. Flawless.

I just read that the CSM Revlock also has a manual mode that does not require a spare channel.

Make your choice. Here are the links:

http://www.modelavionics.com/
http://www.rcmodels.org/csm/

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09-12-2007 07:57 PM  10 years agoPost 12
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Do not get the Rev Max. It is meant to be used with well configured throttle curves and mixes. If you run it straight it works worse than a normal governor.

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09-12-2007 08:22 PM  10 years agoPost 13
ripley

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Hmm - what to get. Lot's of varying opinions.

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09-12-2007 08:27 PM  10 years agoPost 14
Furious Predator

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all kinds of people use the Revmax with straight throttle curves to "force" the revmax to act as a govenor....i believe even Alan Szabo does it. i have been doing it for a couple years with great success.

though im not saying the Throttle Jockey Pro wouldn't do a better job, since i have never used it as a comparison, but the revmax does do a very good job.

if you choose a throttle jocket and get either one, im sure you will be happy.

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09-12-2007 08:28 PM  10 years agoPost 15
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jackheli all I'm really worried about is overspeed when the disk is unloaded. Reading the reviews and specs on the Rev Max seems to be just what I'm looking for right now in my current flying ability. Am I missing something?

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09-12-2007 08:32 PM  10 years agoPost 16
inkspot1967

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i have tryed then all but the csm one and all of the others do a great job , but i found the atg the easiest to setup and worked the best for me.
Do not get the Rev Max. It is meant to be used with well configured throttle curves and mixes. If you run it straight it works worse than a normal governor.
i find that statement pretty funny, alan szabo doesnt seem to have a problem with them at all. they work great but you need someone else to tach it to get the headspeed set is the only thing i didt like about it

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09-12-2007 08:41 PM  10 years agoPost 17
jackheli

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alan szabo doesnt seem to have a problem
Yeah! We are all like him.
worried about is overspeed
Any governor will deal with that.

I am not going to go over this again. It has been well covered on how the Revmax is NOT a governor and is inefficient in that role. Check my posts at:

http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t179690p1/

Do whatever you will.

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09-12-2007 08:44 PM  10 years agoPost 18
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The Rev-Max is a new concept . This unit differs from the usual engine governor and may be coined an "RPM limiter", or as industry often terms an "Over-speed Governor"

The Rev-Max does not govern an under-speed condition relying solely on the throttle curve for this function. The problem with all governors is a slight throttle lag. This issue has been completely addressed with this product.

The Rev-Max deals with less than half the workload during engine rpm management thus allowing for a better and direct connection between the engine and rotor. When the limiter is not needed it is completely by-passed. As an example, during rapid tic-tocs this unit will supply more useable power to the rotor at the ideal time resulting in a faster, stronger and more impressive maneuver. The throttle simply stays in sync with the rapidly changing rotor loading. Fast multiple rolls benefit in a similar manner as do others.

Tuning the throttle curve is fairly straight forward after selecting a target rpm on the ground using the lower point on the current curve. This verifies that the unit is clipping at the desired rpm. Once this is completed the rest of the idle-up points are set in flight to maintain or slightly exceed the target rpm. The engine note will give ample under-speed clues since confusing over-speeding is non-existent. Cyclic to throttle mixing will now co-exist with the Rev-Max and can be set in flight to remove any under-speeding during hard over cyclic maneuvers. A direct and very connected feel is maintained with no over revving of the engine or rotor.

The Rev-Max will not easily mask a poor mixture setting as a governor might, and will encourage smoother and more available engine power. With the smaller 30 and 50 sized governed machines the extra useable power is most welcome. Competition pilots have always wanted a direct link between the throttle and rotor but had to put up with annoying over speeding. This is because different maneuvers load the rotor differently at similar collective settings. Many flying the bigger helicopters presently employ a governor to this end as the lesser of two evils, while hard-core stubborn perfectionists refuse to have any part of a governor. Today we have the cure for both.

"The Rev Max limiter works better then any governor on the market today, superior midrange power is achieved resulting in a more positive feeling model. This is the only rpm limiter on the market that I know of, it's very good idea which allows one to get even more performance out of their helicopter."

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09-12-2007 08:44 PM  10 years agoPost 19
ripley

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Ok jackheli I didn't mean to upset you. I guess I need to do some better searching. I just was caught off guard by your comment that the Rev Max didn't work well at all.

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09-12-2007 08:46 PM  10 years agoPost 20
inkspot1967

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the revmax is not a gov its a rev limiter 2 different things

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