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09-12-2007 12:51 PM  10 years agoPost 1
Ronald Thomas

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What's the difference between the 500 DX and the 500 3D. Will the DX do 3D or is it a bling thing?

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09-12-2007 09:28 PM  10 years agoPost 2
OICU812

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I personally think the extra dough for the 3D is worth it imho. Bearings in mixers vs bushings, two peice with pins tr slider vs one peice. The LLS mixers on head etc... If you buy the 3D you will not have to upgrade anything just fly it.

...Once upon a time there were Nitros, flybars and frequency pins...

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09-12-2007 10:20 PM  10 years agoPost 3
Ronald Thomas

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I bought the 500 3d. Thanks all...Ron

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09-13-2007 04:28 AM  10 years agoPost 4
OICU812

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Please let us know what you think once you have maidened it Ron. And of course if you run into any hitches let the community know so they may provide you a lending hand.

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09-13-2007 09:25 AM  10 years agoPost 5
brod

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wonder if the 'good 'ol Swift' will still be flown

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09-17-2007 10:30 PM  10 years agoPost 6
Ronald Thomas

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Well some things started showing up today. The motor, ESC, cyclic servos, gy401, .7 mod gear and pinion (15t), aluminum motor mount, and Dewalt battery (Saturday). The heli should be here tomorrow along with the 9254. The suspense is killin me!

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09-17-2007 11:24 PM  10 years agoPost 7
OICU812

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So you are going to run this as a 8S setup Ron? 10SA123 or ...?
I ran the Z30A-800 on 8S with 16T mod.7 that seemed to be the sweet spot for that motor and range. I am curious of ther performance of these cells you will be using.

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09-18-2007 12:02 AM  10 years agoPost 8
Ronald Thomas

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I'm going to run it on a 10s A123 first and see how I like it. Maybe then switch to an 8s lipo setup....Ron

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09-20-2007 01:31 AM  10 years agoPost 9
Ronald Thomas

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My father is doing much better so it gave me the time to get the build started. Look what I have been doing!
Impressions:
The kit quality is excellent. I only had a couple of hiccups during the whole build (one of the balls for the links had a screw hole that was too small and I had to work a little to get the frame sides to go together).
The instructions were good but could have used some more up close, fully assembled pics. I like the way the head is designed. This is the first head I have assembled that I felt confident about from the very beginning.
As for the Mikado plastic, It's definitely a cut above but for a $459 asking price, I would have liked to get a Carbon Fiber fin set and some main blades (comes with the tail blades though).
I would definitely suggest the .,7 mod gear and pinion from the start. The gear mesh seemed pretty easy to set with the .7 mod gear and I can see where you would have problems if you used the .5 as it does not allow for much wiggle room. The aluminum motor mount is wonderful ad it makes the plastic one look cheap.
I am waiting on my BEC (should be here tomorrow) And I will probably maiden her then if the weather let's up.
I included some pics next to the Swift for comparison. It seems bigger than my Swift but the Swift is longer.
Overall I am impressed with the kit but I wish it had some carbon accents and some main blades. I'll keep you guys posted on the maiden....I'm pretty excited!

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09-20-2007 02:53 AM  10 years agoPost 10
Raydee

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Western New York

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How were your ball links. I had some tight ones that I finally resized today and what a diff it made. Usually I let the ball links break in with someoil on their own but I was having some issues with my logo not centering right so I decided to resize the tight links and I am happy I did. It is much smoother now for sure. I am def going to get the mod .7 geras for mine just for the peace of mind. I have about 10 battery packs through mine now with the Z30-1100kv motor and no problems.

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09-20-2007 03:03 AM  10 years agoPost 11
Ronald Thomas

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My ball links were tight but move pretty freely. Did resizing help a lot?

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09-20-2007 03:33 AM  10 years agoPost 12
Raydee

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It helped my 500 enough for me to post. I swear I thought my servo's were bad, the heli just seemed to drift all over the field. I would correct it and then it would drift the other way. I decided to check all the links and I have about 5 or 6 that were way to tight. After resizing them today I went down to the field and I was very happy. Hovering inverted about 4 feet of the ground was less of a chore with the links resized

I personally have never resized a link before this heli. I was always afraid that after resizing it would cause premature wear. I used to hang my heli's upside down and spray the whole head with penetrating oil and let them sit overnight. For the most part that seemed to work good but it would still take a lot of flights for the links to free up. I say if they are real tight on yours to size them for sure.

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09-20-2007 05:03 AM  10 years agoPost 13
OICU812

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careful on the resizing thing, only need to do the swash to mixer links, leave the swash to flybar cage ones alone up top, you'll see in 10 flights they will be smooth and not need it.
The Mikado links break in nicely, if they are really tight do a slight tuen out with your sizer, but certainly leave em on what you think is a bit tight, you will see it takes a ton of flight to make these links sloppy, most likely for most and entire season if not more.

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09-20-2007 06:15 AM  10 years agoPost 14
misskimo

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Alaska 17 years,​before mississippi​for 31y

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hey , a few of mine was tight , I did the Curtis Youngblood fix , pair of plires , just give them alittle squeeze while on the ball, mine ran so smooth, I cut some tundra grass for a first time getting that low .

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09-22-2007 12:28 AM  10 years agoPost 15
Ronald Thomas

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Well my BEC didn't show up again today but I bet I know where I can get one....My Swift! I robbed the Medusa BEC from it so I couls set up my Logo. I had to make some adjustments so I was not able to get much of a flight in, mostly just hovering but here is waht I have observed so far:
The Kit is very well thought out and excecuted, the parts are top notch, and the build manual could use some more close up pics but overall it is great. There is a mistake in one of the pics in the manual though. I was alerted of this by OCIU812. He told me that the mixer arm pics show the long side of the mixer arm attaching to the main grip where it should be the short side. I made this correction before I got her off the ground and it seems to work well.
THIS HELI IS QUIET! there is almost NO gear noise! It's almos deceptive because you only hear the motor and the blades which is cool. It definately flies like a larger heli and the 10S A123 setup gives plenty of power. I installed a 5mm collar I had from an ols Trex on the motor to give me some piece of mind. The Motor was almost COLD to the touch and the battery was barely warm but like I said I was only hovering with the occasional quick burst climbout.
So far I LOVE THIS HELI! It really feels solid and smooth in the air.
Tomorrow I am going to the field and I am going to give it a workout to see what she really can do. I am not a 3D pilot but I acn do a few things to stress the motor/battery setup.
As for the comparison to the Swift, I can't compare right now because I don't have much stick time but I will know soon (tomorrow). Wsh me luck!....Ron

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09-22-2007 01:37 AM  10 years agoPost 16
OICU812

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right on Ron, glad you have got to the first step and maiden. Sounds like all went well, keep us posted.

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09-22-2007 02:03 PM  10 years agoPost 17
Ronald Thomas

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I got a flight in today. I like the way it feels in the air but I think I need a pinion change because the heli feels a little sluggish in climbouts. I have to check hoe many degrees of cyclic pitch I am getting also. I still like how quiet this thing is. I think I will go with a larger set of tail blades also. My Swift feels faster on punchouts but I still have some more adjustments to make. I will make those and post....Ron

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09-22-2007 03:17 PM  10 years agoPost 18
rerazor

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What gear ratio? With 10s a123 you need the 22t pinion to accommodate for the initial drop in voltage then it will maintain a solid 2000+rpm.

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09-22-2007 04:02 PM  10 years agoPost 19
Ronald Thomas

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I am using the .7 mod gear and the 15Tooth pinion.
Do you know where I can find a headspeed calculator? I think I also have issues with my Astro charger not charging my battery fully. Full charged it sits at 33.6 volts and I think a Dewalt pack is supposed to be at 3.6 volts per cell which is 36 volts.

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09-22-2007 04:44 PM  10 years agoPost 20
rerazor

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I will run the 17t with the 153 .7 mod. I use KC spreadsheet from RCGroups. PM me your e-mail.

A123 charge to 36 volts then the resting volts ends up being approx. 34 volts and under load drops to the approx. 30volt range but holds that voltage thru out flight.

What is your headspeed?

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