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09-12-2007 02:57 AM  10 years agoPost 1
Betofazzo

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I feel that the Align trex600n dont make the flip's like my raptor50 titan (recently sold), i mind the raptor is fast is this manouver and the rex take a "litle" more time to perform this..., i think there is something on the rotorhead maybe the center of gravity or the desing of the head (the flybar under the blades for example), anyone have some comments about this issue?..., i use the Align carbon paddles, can i do something to increase the speed for the flips??thanks to all..
Ps: i use 9451 servos for cyclic.

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09-12-2007 03:14 AM  10 years agoPost 2
702nitro

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Dude what are you talking about? I definitely think that blade choice will have a dramatic impact on cyclic performance. What blades are you running? What about cyclic pitch?

Also, use the inner hole on the flybar seesaw!

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09-12-2007 03:22 AM  10 years agoPost 3
Betofazzo

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Hello there and apologize for my english, well i have the nhp blades, and i think i use the inner hole on the flybar, which blades you use?
pitch -13 +13
cyclic 8.5 to 9

thank you.

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09-12-2007 03:27 AM  10 years agoPost 4
702nitro

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Using v-blades TST
440mm flybar
Align 3k CF Paddles

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09-12-2007 03:38 AM  10 years agoPost 5
Betofazzo

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Hi again i have the 440mm flybar but not install yet, this increase the speed of all manouver's right?
I think the nhp blades are a litle heavy but have a wonderful center of gravity, i read that the v-blades are excellent, other brand that perform good?
thanks

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09-12-2007 03:47 AM  10 years agoPost 6
702nitro

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Yes the 440 flybar will help waken things up for sure. I haven't tried the NHP's before so I can't comment on them, however i have tried the Radix and my v-blades back to back and the difference is night and day; V-blades hands down win if you're look for great pop, and your flying style demands calls for quick manuevars.

Some guys were commenting on the Rotortech blades and it appeared to be getting some good reviews.
Link to thread

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09-12-2007 03:50 AM  10 years agoPost 7
Betofazzo

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Thank's for the info,.. see you in the air sometime

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09-12-2007 04:59 AM  10 years agoPost 8
JMF

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I was not a fan of any pair of NHP blade I had. Though they were a quality blade, they just did not deliver the performance I was looking for.
SAB's blades were very floaty and responsive, I was impressed with them. They are very close to the Radix blade (which I fly with now). Radix a bit cheaper and perform so close to SAB you barely notice.
I have never tried v-blades and plan on ordering a pair.
I am having trouble finding a set of tail blades I like on the rex 600. Tried stocks and SAB's CF blades . Did not like either. I thought the stocks were better. What are you guys using on the tail?
Wanna trade for some SAB's may just suit your fancy, lol
But my 600N sport flips very quickly and precisely. CC management is key.

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09-12-2007 06:00 AM  10 years agoPost 9
702nitro

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Currently using 95mm v-tails, although I can't feel the difference between it and the stock ones, other than a placebo effect.

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09-12-2007 06:15 PM  10 years agoPost 10
Zaneman007

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Betofazzo

How many degrees of cyclic do you have in the elevator?

I would check your set up. When I first set up mine, I had four degrees of pitch. Talk about a slow flip. It felt like slow motion, except for gravity. Now, I have 8.5 degrees in the cyclic and 12.5 degrees in the pitch.

Set up is everything.

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09-13-2007 02:23 AM  10 years agoPost 11
JMF

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Set up is everything.
indeed

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09-13-2007 02:32 AM  10 years agoPost 12
Betofazzo

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8 degrees more or less
+13 -13

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09-13-2007 02:51 AM  10 years agoPost 13
702nitro

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Zaneman says he running 8.5 deg pitch. Maybe you should increase that 8deg of cyclic pitch by .5, maybe then you'll feel the difference!

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09-13-2007 02:56 AM  10 years agoPost 14
JAGNZ

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Ditch the NHP's - well made but they SUCK performancewise IMHO. Radix/Rotortech/SAB/V's, take your pick, they all fly miles better than NHP's. Next, put on the 440 flybar and get some Stubz or at least some good paddles and then whoa, watchout, she'll flip alright...


Jason Greenwood

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09-13-2007 02:48 PM  10 years agoPost 15
Betofazzo

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Thank you Jason i have the 440mm flybar i will install right now, plus the 3k align carbon paddles and a pair of sab's 600, add.5 extra for cyclic and i ready to perform some nice flips.....i post some comments next, thanks to all..

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09-13-2007 07:40 PM  10 years agoPost 16
JAGNZ

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Happy to help, let us know how you get on!!


Jason Greenwood

www.3dheli.co.nz

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09-13-2007 08:37 PM  10 years agoPost 17
QuantumPSI

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So from what I've read and heard from sponsored pilots, the Rotortechs are by far the most aggressive on cyclic. However, they are lacking in collective pop and auto capabilities. Further, the V's seem to be the best all around. I fly rotortechs for the cyclic speed but I want the collective pop of V's. I did not know how much pop V's had until I put on a pair on my Stratus, after that, I was sold. Once I get some cash, I'm going to try a set on V's.

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09-13-2007 09:08 PM  10 years agoPost 18
Jag72

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T600------

I was so disappointed with the cyclics on my last trex 600 ---

I tried all kinds of different blades and had the 440mm flybar etc...etc...

I was running vpaddles, vblades 2300rpms(10s electric) and it still lacked super fast cyclics compared to some of my other machines...like my logos, and roxxters

I was running over 8 degrees of cyclic and it still sucked...I ended up finally fixing the problem...

I sold it...

I'm not saying that that the t600 sucks...just my experiences with them have not been great...

OH!....if you want to speed up cyclics...definitely try the Stubz paddles...they are insanely fast...

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