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09-12-2007 01:58 AM  10 years agoPost 1
bekylane

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I currently own a Blade CP Pro and I am doing basic 3D and sports flying.

I am considering in the near future when I outgrow the CP Pro something with more tail authority and a brushless motor like the Honey Bee King 2.

I don't know much about this helicopter and have the following questions:

1. Is this a good Micro or do you guys recomend something else? I am limited to 300 size class due to space limitations.

2. How does it fly? (I have flown Blade CP Pro and Trex 450 SE). I like the T-rex, but again not much space at home.

3. Where can I get the best deal on a HBK2 RTF with brushless motor?

4. Are there aluminum parts for it in other color that is not purple?

5. What alternative canopies fit this heli. I have only seen T-rex canopies on it but they look big for it.

Thanks!

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09-12-2007 07:38 PM  10 years agoPost 2
bekylane

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So many views and no answers yet

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09-12-2007 09:51 PM  10 years agoPost 3
DougsRC

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In my opinion The Esky HB king V2 is the best heli for the $ out there. The first day I got it, I sold my Blade CP on Ebay. There is a seller on Ebay that sells the esky 3100 kv motor and 25 amp sp. control for 29. plus 9 shipping and the HBK2 for 114.+39 shipping. I think his Ebay id is bkm11 and he also have replacment parts for the king.

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09-12-2007 09:57 PM  10 years agoPost 4
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Correction the Ebay seller ID is 11BKM and he ships fast from Texas. I think the HBKingv2 flies like a mini Trex but is lighter. I use Helidirects 1350 megapower 11.1 volt li-pos and they work perfectly for the king. Place the battery as far forward as possible, I extented the battery tray for a better CG. Hobby-Lobby also sells parts and upgrades for the King 2.

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09-12-2007 10:13 PM  10 years agoPost 5
rccarguy

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1. Is this a good Micro or do you guys recomend something else?
This is an excellent 300 class heli. I have a CP Pro and a Compy 300 as well as the HBK2, since I got the HBK I have barely flown the CP Pro and the Compy not at all. The King 2 actually uses a lot of parts in common with the bigger Esky Belt CP which is a 450 size, makes it a very robust airframe that will take punishment that would destroy a CP Pro. I've stuffed it three times now and other than bent spindle shafts, a broken set of wood blades, and a snapped stabilizer fin, there hasn't really been any serious damage.
2. How does it fly?
Far more stable than a Cp Pro, not quite as stable as a Trex. You will find it far easier to fly than a Blade and very smooth in flight, but it does tend to react a lot quicker and a bit different than a Trex, due in part I think to the tall rotor head assembly. Not that there's anything bad about the way it feels in flight, it's just different from the other heli's I have.
3. Where can I get the best deal on a HBK2 RTF with brushless motor?
I'm not aware of anyone on this side of the Pacific ocean that is selling a RTF with a brushless installed, I seem to recall seeing one or two shops in Taiwan and/or China that have combo deals that do include a BL setup. Either do some web searching, or maybe someone else knows of a shop that has it and will pass it along.
4. Are there aluminum parts for it in other color that is not purple?
Allegedly yes. I've seen blue on various websites, but never seen them "in stock". Given the rising popularity of the King 2 it's only a matter of time before the aftermarket starts ramping up with various bits and pieces in plain alloy and color.
5. What alternative canopies fit this heli.
Many of the other 300 class canopies will fit. Blade CP will fit with some minor modification to the canopy to clear the maingear and the addition of a set of lower mounting posts. Compy 300 fits without mods, and the standard HDX 300 will fit with the addition of a set of mounting posts. I've tried all of these but still use the stock King2, it's proven itself to be relatively crash damage resistant

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09-12-2007 10:33 PM  10 years agoPost 6
bekylane

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Thanks!

Any trusted sites where I can get a good deal for an RTF and also get the BL motor too?

I performed a google search, but I don't dare to purchase on a site unless I hear it is trusted from someone that has purchased.

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09-12-2007 10:55 PM  10 years agoPost 7
tryan02

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What is the average durability for the CP Pro tail motor for stock setup doing sport flying and basic loops and rolls?

I have seen reports of it lasting an average of 7 hours for the brushless main motor and doing hard 3D, but none on stock motor and sport flying.

Thanks
this was the original posters question from the bcp & cx forum Looks like we got a chance to convert another one from eflite to esky.

http://www.helidirect.com
http://www.high-flier.net/store/index.php

I ordered mine from high-flier.net but shipping from hong kong is slow would just buy from helidirect if I was to do again

And by the way no matter where you buy the hbkv2 its around $75 for barebones kit. rob your bcp servos and radio buy a tail servo and a real gyro if you don't already have one get the hdx300 brushless and your choice of 25+ amp speed controller an don't look back after the first flight the bcp will be in your closet on the shelf in an old shoe box.

heli $75
servo $15
hdx300 $20
esc $25
gyro $100

total $235
the savings in worn out bcp parts will pay for the HBK2

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09-12-2007 11:24 PM  10 years agoPost 8
bekylane

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I can be converted to E-Sky but It will be hard for me to let go of the BCP Pro, I just love that heli.

I know It is harder to fly than others, but I actually enjoy the challenge. What I don't like about it is the tail motor.

If I get a HBK2 I will sell the BCP Pro first, that's why I am looking for an RTF kit.

One question: Is the e-Sky HL Gyro good for the HBK2? I plan to get one for my BCP Pro and pass it on the the king when I get it.

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09-13-2007 01:18 AM  10 years agoPost 9
tryan02

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sounds like a good idea but you wont get anything for the bcpp we all have one already. For a bcpp of unknown quality you'll be lucky to get 100-125 dollars because as you found out with the motors and everything is so minimalistic with the bcpp that the ball links and plastic parts wear too quickly not to mention the radio problems. You'll find the composite big beefy parts of the HBK2 will well out last the bcpp. I know its hard to let go of the bcpp but you'll forget about it after the first HBK2 flight. I was gonna build my bcpp back full seperate brushless. I changed my mind I am considering a second HBK2 as a I have a programmable radio just add the 2nd heli to it and fly.

Sorry cant answer gyro ? I had a GY240 from a eco8 I sold. The tail on HBK2 flies like a plane rock solid and always dead on. If I build second HBK2 Ill buy another gy240 just because I already know its awesome performance not that its any better than cheaper gyros.

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09-13-2007 01:47 AM  10 years agoPost 10
fenderstrat

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can be converted to E-Sky but It will be hard for me to let go of the BCP Pro, I just love that heli.
....yeah we ALL said the same thing till we flew the HBK.100 times more durable,stable,great flight,cheap...buy a BL main and never buy a motor again(at least not for years)......if you fly the CPPRO you will spend enough money on tail , main motors and main shafts in 6 months to buy a barebones HBK2 kit

edit....now that I think about it...I'm still waiting for someone to post about how much they hate the HBK2 and what a P.O.S. it is because you know if something is wrong with something or there is a complaint you will see it posted here

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09-13-2007 03:48 AM  10 years agoPost 11
bekylane

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I gues the gyro should work as it is manufactured by e-sky just as the king.

Does the HBK2 has any limitations in terms of 3D compared to the larger birds?

I know a piroloop is quite out of the question for the CP Pro.

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09-13-2007 03:51 AM  10 years agoPost 12
tryan02

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do a google video search for hbk stunt flight youll find a asian guy flying the heck out of one.

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09-13-2007 05:59 PM  10 years agoPost 13
bekylane

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Thanks guys!

I am almost convinced, just have to sell the CP Pro first. I want to save a bit of money as I am planning on purchasing a DX7 and Walkera sub micro (4#3 also. By the way, where in this forum are the sub micros discussed?

rccarguy: Where you saw the blue parts? All I have seen is purple.

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09-13-2007 08:39 PM  10 years agoPost 14
fenderstrat

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DX7...good choice...STAY AWAY FROM WALKERA......I personally dont have any experience with them,but that is the only company I have read about that has close to 100% negative posts...those helis have ALL KINDS of problems..do a search you will see...they have the worst reputation in R/C

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09-13-2007 11:32 PM  10 years agoPost 15
bekylane

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Thanks, unfortunately the only two sub-micro helis I know off are the Walkera 4-3 and the Micron.

Micron has also 100% negative coments.

I wish E-flite or e-Sky made a sub micro.

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09-14-2007 01:36 AM  10 years agoPost 16
fenderstrat

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what is a sub-micro?I'm assuming even smaller than 300 size but counter rotating blades??...can you post a pic of one or a link so I can see one??

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09-14-2007 02:05 AM  10 years agoPost 17
bekylane

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A sub micro is really tiny they come in FP and coaxial. They are four channel models, almost as tiny as a picooz but with full cyclic control.

7 inches long

Here is the official page for the 4#3:

http://www.walkera.com/en1/particular.jsp?pn=Z24#30104

And a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1Ai...-1-pr-2764.html

There is also a coaxial version, but I want challenge!

Also another sub micro is the micron, but it costs $300 and uses the same walkera electronics.

It would be nice to fly this miniature in my living room. I bet you could install separates for a nice setup.

Here are some pics of the Walkera 4#3 and 5#6 and micron:

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09-14-2007 02:24 AM  10 years agoPost 18
fenderstrat

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thats actually pretty cool,that would be fun as hell on bad weather days,buzzing around the house....I wonder how they REALLY fly

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09-14-2007 02:44 AM  10 years agoPost 19
bekylane

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According to people that have flown them:

The sub-micro coaxial are pretty easy to fly, just like micro coaxials.

The sub-micro FP are difficult to fly but quite possible. I once saw a video of Alan szabo flying a Micron and he hovered it quite nicely. Ithink the video is on the micron site http://www.precisionheli.com

I want that Walkera 4#3 badly! I was checking some reviews of the 5#6 and people talk very good about them unlike the other crappy walkeras. And for $100 there is not much to loose.

Finally there are rumors on other forums about a walkera CP the size of the 4#3. I can't imagine doing 3D inside the kitchen .

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09-14-2007 02:49 AM  10 years agoPost 20
fenderstrat

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Finally there are rumors on other forums about a walkera CP the size of the 4#3. I can't imagine doing 3D inside the kitchen .
theres one already out for a while its the VENOM NIGHT RANGER 3D micro..its a LITTLE bigger than the 4#3 but not by much and I heard they actually fly well

oh and for the record VENOM is walkera in a new color and box

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