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09-11-2007 06:07 PM  10 years agoPost 1
raptorapture

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With all the enhancements coming out for the Raptor perhaps TT's strategy is to keep everybody using the base parts. However, I must say, not much is going to be left on my 50 that's from TT!

There is one bit that seems not to have a better design out there yet and that's for the tail rod. I recall seeing a rig where rather than have a two part tail rod that stretched from the servo up front all the way to the tail, there was a seesaw action 1/3 of the way to shorten the rod length and of course to strengthen it as well as allow the rod to be carbon. What I believe it was missing was removing the bend towards the servo.

Every time I crash and rebuild the boom/tail rod, I always end up spending time setting up the tail rod. Haven't used the seesaw bit; however, I keep alternating between a straight bend and a curve. Each have its benefits and drawbacks. My goal is to get 100% friction free by not touching the guides at least the ones on the frame as the rod goes to the servo. It seems an endless quest.

Anybody succeeded? Or better ideas? Or am I just too ...?

Geoff.

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09-11-2007 06:13 PM  10 years agoPost 2
mbkite

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I like my raptors stock and with cheep servos so i can crash i mean learn new moves.
Raptors fly great even if you build it blindfolded.
Don't waste your time and money on up grades.
If you want top shelf Helli then get one.

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09-12-2007 03:21 AM  10 years agoPost 3
raptorapture

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mbkite,

Not looking for more bling. Would have loved to keep Rappy stock. I upgraded the head due to wanting to go for carbons. Boy the carbon blades make a difference as well as the head speed. I fly stock motor too by the way (TT50)! I plan to upgrade the tail to Kasama as well due to the possible danger there and maybe the bling of the head has gone to mine! About the tail rod, just want a solution to get my tail smoother than it is. It really is the one annoying thing of the build that I haven't quite sorted out.

Cheers.

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09-12-2007 05:21 AM  10 years agoPost 4
ripley

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I think a seesaw modification would be a great thing. Especially allowing the use of carbon rods and eliminating that little link that joins the two metal rods together. I wish someone would market it. I think I would buy it.

"Excuse me honey can you finish on your own I think thats the Fed Ex man"

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09-12-2007 07:16 AM  10 years agoPost 5
raptorapture

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Ripley,

There was a seesaw mod on RR a while back including pics. Don't know if you've seen it. Worthwhile to investigate. The only thing is it was a bit of work to change a boom servo mount into the seesaw. They had all the necessary parts at the LHS but when I looked into it, just looked like I might mess it up. Hadn't worked with carbon before either. You'll have to make your own rods. I definitely would purchase if sold complete.

Geoff.

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09-12-2007 06:00 PM  10 years agoPost 6
ripley

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I'll do a search and see if I can read it. I might want to try it.

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09-12-2007 11:27 PM  10 years agoPost 7
herby8860

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You can get all the parts you need from Century. They make carbon tail controll rod sets that you just have to cut and epoxy the ends on. You will need 2 of those, one tail boom mount and I use a Titan push pull elevator lever for a bell crank. I will try to post some pics.

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09-13-2007 02:00 AM  10 years agoPost 8
ripley

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Be looking forward to the pics, thx.

"Excuse me honey can you finish on your own I think thats the Fed Ex man"

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09-13-2007 03:35 AM  10 years agoPost 9
S76 Mech

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hey fellas.

I have been flying my 50se for sometime now. I had the tail servo on my 601 mounted to the boom for a long time but burned out 2 tail servos due to the oil from the exhaust. After I replaced my last 9251 with a new one, I decided to put it back up front in the stock location again. I love it being up front out of the smoke and oil but I hate putting those tail rod sliders on the boom, aligning them, CA'ing them in place, and rigging the tail. What a pain in the ass!

Like mentioned above with a pivot point, has anyone tried to adapt the pivot see saw from a Trex 600 ?

Gaui Greatness X7, X5, NX4, X3

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09-13-2007 03:38 AM  10 years agoPost 10
jschenck

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It's Yug's Raptor - copying this is on my todo list

http://runryder.com/rrpw.htm?d=/hel...9/&i=65&a=1&s=0

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09-13-2007 04:00 AM  10 years agoPost 11
cowboychris

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I performed this mod about a month ago. I couldn't be happier with the performance. Adjusting the tail is now easy - just slide the pivot forward or backwards a little bit and you are set. I had some of the parts, and bought some Quick UK parts as well.

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09-13-2007 10:58 AM  10 years agoPost 12
raptorapture

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jschenck,

Thanks for that. However, I must say that the only parts that I can spot on Yug's beast (I mean that in a friendly way) that are from TT are the tanks, landing gear and maybe the clutch bell

Any pics for the R50V2 orig frame? I guess Yug being in UK is using the Zero-G. Can't quite see where the tail control rod would be if he didn't have the seesaw in place. Is this part of the Zero-G setup?

Now that I have seen it, I've got the itch to do it again!

Geoff.

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09-13-2007 02:58 PM  10 years agoPost 13
jschenck

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I think the Zero-G frame has the tail servo in the same place as the TT frame so a setup similar to Yug's would work. btw the lever is a lever from the seasaw off the head IIRC. Anyway Yug's example is a starting point and a good reference to invent one for myself.

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09-13-2007 06:14 PM  10 years agoPost 14
raptorapture

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jschenk,

What's IIRC? Also, the comment about Zero-G frame was a reference to the fact that it appears none of the plastic for the tail rod guides are in the way on the Zero-G frame but would be on the raptor frame.

Geoff.

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09-13-2007 07:04 PM  10 years agoPost 15
jschenck

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IIRC = "If I Remember Correctly" - sorry for the internet lingo

yea the guides may be in the way on a Raptor V2 frame but a little work with a dremel would fix that I think. I have not attempted this yet so it's all conjecture on my part after seeing Yug's setup and thinking about it. This would take some thinking and planning on the builders part but looks to be doable.

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