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09-11-2007 02:30 PM  10 years agoPost 1
CUJO

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San Angelo, TX

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I'm debating on getting a Century if either a 30 pro or the 50 Kinetic but can't decide on size. I do like Towers 3pay which makes getting into a heli alot easier on the pocket book.

Though this is a Century forum is either one worth getting? I know bigger is more stable which is what I need. Its just hard to look at mags cause there are too few article in between and cater to the guy that wants to spend 1000s on a setup. I'm willing to peice it together with what fits my budget.

Note: I'm not interested in 3D, just scale, and the availablility of Century scale shells is awsome

Secondly how are the eletrics? I would prefer eletric as its relative quiteness would work in my subdivision but read that its harder for an eletric to hold a constant hover. (which most of the Youtube videos I've seen it looks like it hard for anyone to hold a good stable hover...lol)

Lastly on the eletrics are the batteries going to be cheap enough to fly with? I looked at a Trex600 but felt that once I had to buy a 200 dollar battery I might as well buy a nitro, but with the price of fuel does it balance out or do I end up getting ahead with the battery? Especiall if its cheaper for a Century outfit?

Thanks in advance.

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09-11-2007 02:45 PM  10 years agoPost 2
DJDAZ

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Perth Western​Australia

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IMO battery power is still the underdog. For starters, Century doesn't make anything other than the Swift, which is under a 30 size and doesn't give you the range of scale bodies. Second, I hate the idea of spending hundreds of $ on batteries that only fly for 5 mins.

If you really want to go scale then your best bet is either the Hawk pro with an OS37 or if you want to put a bigger body and want the extra power, the Raven/Falcon with a 50. I don't know the exact configurations and which bodies the models will suit, the setup with CCPM and how it fits the fuse etc. Just remember you will need a scale muffler instead of regular can.

Plus real heli's have engine sounds...... you want your scale to sound like a real heli!

Check the "Scale Models" section, I'm sure a lot of them are based on the Hawk mechanics and you can PM the owners for more details.

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09-11-2007 02:53 PM  10 years agoPost 3
Pistol Pete

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Seffner, FL

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Electrics cost more upfront due to battery...but is has been proven over and over as numbers do not lie that eventually you will break even and then fly for free...per say.
I hate the idea of spending hundreds of $ on batteries that only fly for 5 mins.
Another misconception...flight have been recorded in the 10 to 15 minutes range...this, of course, is dependant of flying style as well as weight of bird.

Many are flying scale models using A123 batteries which are cheaper than "soft" lipos.

~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

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09-11-2007 04:11 PM  10 years agoPost 4
madog

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Mountain View, CA​USA

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The Raven 50 is a great starter and is a killer 3D heli (ccpm conversion with metal upgrades). Many scale fuse's are designed for it also.

You souldn't be flying anything near you subdivision, electric or nitro.

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09-11-2007 04:38 PM  10 years agoPost 5
FenderBean

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Clarksville, TN

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get a raven, the kinetic is the same heli almost just cost more since its helimax

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09-11-2007 06:30 PM  10 years agoPost 6
schoenju

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Springfield, oregon​USA

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I have a hawk pro with os 37 and a hatori SAB-6RS pipe. With this pipe the bird makes plenty of power and is quite a bit quieter than the stock pipe that comes with the kit. I would fly my heli without much worries that it is being too loud, but that is subjective. You may be able to find a quieter pipe such as a scale pipe, that may make it more economical sound wise.

Justin Schoenberg

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09-11-2007 08:22 PM  10 years agoPost 7
Gearhead

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if your looking at the Kinetic I would say for just $80 more buy the Raven, it wont be long before you find out $80 in this hobby is nothing at all,,

rather Raven or H-Pro they fly great and hold up well, and have a very stiff frame and have the best clutch on the market,,

but what size to start with, I always tell people to start with a 30, it's just what I believe..

Jim

Jim
Buzz Buzz Buzz

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09-12-2007 06:08 AM  10 years agoPost 8
chris24g

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Hayward, CA

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You can convert a 30 or 50 century heli to electric easily.

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09-12-2007 11:19 PM  10 years agoPost 9
thelane

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Edmonton, Alberta​Canada

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I have a Hawk Pro w/OS37 and it's an awesome heli. Very stable and capable, parts are low-cost as well and scale bodies are available of course.

If you want to later, there is a motor mount that will allow you to put a .50 in it. I started with electrics, finally bought a Logo 10 Deluxe with intentions of using my NiHM packs but then found out those packs powering the A30-8XL could barely get off the ground. Some elec. experts told me I bought the wrong engine for use with NiHM and would need to spend $250+ on a bettery. When I asked what kind of flight time I would get, they said from 8-12 minutes. Oh, I also would need a $200 charger to charge the packs as well.

I parted the heli and went with the Hawk Pro. Man... I don't know why I didn't do it to begin with. No esc setup, head speeds to worry about, charging, etc. Just fill it up and fly, fill and fly, fill and fly.

Also, the OS37 burns less fuel and if you run 15%, it's $20 a jug which will give you many flights. On the other hand, of course in the end, a battery will be cheaper but over all, nitro is way better and the best thing is that you don't gradually start to lose power with nitro. It's full power to the end.

Don't forget, when you toast that battery in a crash, even a minor crash can toast it, you will have to cough up another $250 for a new pack. You'll need at least three packs to go out and enjoy a day of flying.

This is all my opinion, based on my own experiences.

~theLane

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09-13-2007 12:29 AM  10 years agoPost 10
chris24g

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Hayward, CA

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one is not better than the other. each has its own pros/cons

pros for electric:
-extremely clean. no slime to wipe off and no smoke
-convenient. you can literally bring just your heli, batts and tx to the field and fly. no starter, battery, fuel, fuel pump to haul in your cramped compact
-extremely quiet. will not wake up the neighborhood on those early saturday mornings
-cheaper to maintain. no engine bearing replacement, or at least the electric motor bearings last much much longer than a hyper 50
-cheaper to run (although higher startup cost). energy cost is nearly free. electricity used is only a few cents
-sounds more scale like when spooling up and flying

pros for nitro
-cheap startup cost
-cheaper repair cost
-smoke trails are cool
-less complicated (mechanical vs electronic)
-more people know how to tune and diagnose nitro problems

FYI, I fly both nitro and electric. Each has its appropriate time and place to fly.

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09-13-2007 06:09 AM  10 years agoPost 11
burtondude

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Edmonton, Alberta,​Canada

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I have an hawk pro and I love it. It is cheap, well cheap for this hobby. Parts are much more available than align, and thunder tiger at my hobby shop. I like the gas and go of the nitros but the engine tunning the needle settings and the little extras like needing a starter all add up. I love the nitros but I know once I can afford it a mini titan will be something I buy. The 30's are great for learning on, but there isn't enough power or pitch to do 3d flying. Basic arobatics okay....depending on the set up but if you are just doing scale flying I say go for the 50, but go for the raven. This way if you ever get into 3D you have a bird that can do it and you can get a little bit better details and more on a 50 size plus the power to haul it around. The 50 can also be a bit more stable but like with all helis it depends on how it is set up.

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09-13-2007 04:19 PM  10 years agoPost 12
jester4

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Brampton, Ontario

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The Hawk 30 is a very light machine. 3D is no problem with a hot .30 sized motor (ie. os37 or Toki40). I've been able to do mild 3D with my Hawk when it had an os32 in it, but of course I had to be light on the collective at times......

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09-13-2007 05:29 PM  10 years agoPost 13
BronxDefector

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California, USA

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I hate the idea of spending hundreds of $ on batteries that only fly for 5 mins.
Enough said..

I love my Hawk Sport...

Selling all my helicopters and gear...

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09-14-2007 11:01 PM  10 years agoPost 14
Saul

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san jose, ca

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I just have to say one thing...

The kinetic 50 fits ALL the century 50 size scale fusalges.

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09-18-2007 05:10 PM  10 years agoPost 15
HeliWolf

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Kent, England

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The hawk does make make a good scale machine and I have had a few. But the Swift does fit most of the Century 30 size bodies with little work. I have also found that it holds a hover well and handles at all scale speeds. This with the standard motor and 3700 4S pack.

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