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09-11-2007 12:54 AM  10 years agoPost 21
Sealerman

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I have completely come to grips with the fact that you are a homosexual, I dont have a problem with it at all.
You see this is what I am talking about, CON's like Helo Creep think everyone is a Homo like they are and if Helo saw me in a bathroom he would make his move.

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09-11-2007 01:32 AM  10 years agoPost 22
helo_chris

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Naahh, you arent my type. I like em sweet and petite, not loud and vulgar.

"There is a fine line between cutting edge and bleeding edge.."

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09-11-2007 02:06 AM  10 years agoPost 23
Sealerman

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Naahh, you arent my type. I like em sweet and petite
Yea Helo I thought you were a closet Richard Simmons fanatic.

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09-11-2007 03:11 AM  10 years agoPost 24
helo_chris

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I said sweet and petite, not fruity.

"There is a fine line between cutting edge and bleeding edge.."

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09-11-2007 03:30 AM  10 years agoPost 25
spork

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The irony is that "open minded tolerance" as defined by modern Liberalism is a one-way street. Conservatives are expected to be open-mindedly tolerant of Liberal views, but Liberals are under no compulsion to be "tolerant" of Conservatism. In fact, the whole opening post in this thread illustrated it.
Not at all ironic. To put it simply, it's possible to be open-minded to everything except closed-mindedness. Being tolerant of intolerance makes no sense.

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09-11-2007 03:45 AM  10 years agoPost 26
Havoc

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I hope one day to live in a world where Sealerman can marry his carrot. But I draw the line at cucumbers.

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09-11-2007 12:56 PM  10 years agoPost 27
Sealerman

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I don't expect any of the usual CONtard's to understand this at all, but it will be funny to read their senseless responses.
This is what the "Wacky Left" was saying about what we can expect in a Post Saddam Iraq.
Noam Chompsky said,
"Let’s just imagine what the policies might be of an independent Iraq, independent, sovereign Iraq, let’s say more or less democratic, what are the policies likely to be?

Well there’s going to be a Shiite majority, so they’ll have some significant influence over policy. The first thing they’ll do is reestablish relations with Iran. Now they don’t particularly like Iran, but they don’t want to go to war with them so they’ll move toward what was happening already even under Saddam, that is, restoring some sort of friendly relations with Iran.

That’s the last thing the United States wants."
Read more here

http://www.irc-online.org/content/c...homsky-iraq.php
Here's what the asinine right was saying about Iraq.
Wolfowitz said the U.S. would be greeted as liberators, that Iraqi oil money would pay for the reconstruction, and that Gen. Eric Shinseki’s estimate that several hundred thousand troops would be needed was “wildly off the mark.”
CON's are as dumb as they come.

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09-11-2007 01:00 PM  10 years agoPost 28
Sealerman

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I hope one day to live in a world where Sealerman can marry his carrot. But I draw the line at cucumbers.
Yea well your just afraid if your Cucumber see what a real man looks like you'll have to go back to sticking your head up your a$$ Havoc.

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09-11-2007 02:12 PM  10 years agoPost 29
Havoc

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09-11-2007 02:24 PM  10 years agoPost 30
MasterCrash

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Thoght Crimes, Worse then pedophelia/rape...

The only thing I see happening here is the war between "Controlling how people think" and "Freedom to think".
Being a free thinking born and raised 'Objectivist' I would have to say to controll how people think is thee ultimate crime above all, including murder. YOUR freedom comes at a cost= your NEIGHBORS freedom?....
Scott

And I thought that I Would never CRASH!!!

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09-11-2007 02:41 PM  10 years agoPost 31
Bart B

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That's the best pic I've seen here in months.

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09-11-2007 03:31 PM  10 years agoPost 32
Pistol Pete

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Brains of liberals, conservatives may work differently
and you did not notice that on these off topics forum?

Reminds me of a joke...

A guy walks into a brain store and see many in display with different prices.

Laborer......$50
Teacher......$150
Professor....$850
Engineer.....$1300
Scientist....$7000
Politician...$25000

Why so much for this one?...he ask the clerk

Because its neven been used.

Then there was the lemming brain...on a pedestal at the museum...priceless.

~~Enjoying the hobby one flight at a time~~

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09-11-2007 04:57 PM  10 years agoPost 33
Ed Moore

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Surely this is obvious? Convervatism would be definition make conservatives less able to deal with new ideas or change. Obvious, surely?

And where's the evidence that liberalism 'is all about' rampant change for the sake of change? Sealerman is not representative of anything except what happens to people who have an internet connection and too much time.

Whilst I'd define my ideological set as orthogonal to the boundaries you've set yourselves (conservatism: tradition, liberals: change. me: whatever evidence suggest would work best), the majority of scientists are liberals, in the US. I don't think this is beacause of ideology, just that if they see that a change makes sense, they will make it, and if a new idea makes better sense than an old one, it should be adopted. That's just being rational.

What I'm saying is, if the scientific method is orthogonal to conservatism and liberalism as most of you seem to have defined it, why do scientists tend to be liberal? Surely it means you must change your definitions? Might it suggest that Liberalism isn't change for the sake of change, it's change where change makes sense. Whether the democratic party is liberal or not is another arguement altogether.

Another question: If liberalism is anathemic to moral values, why are divorce higher to significantly higher among those who voted for repulicans than those who voted for democrats in the last election? The situation is self evidently more complex than some of you would suggest, otherwise the above simply wouldn't be the case. Thoughts?

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09-11-2007 05:16 PM  10 years agoPost 34
spaceman spiff

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why do scientists tend to be liberal?
Good question, however there are many similar questions. Why are most engineers tend to be men? Why do almost twice as many black women go to colege than black men?

Most lawyers are liberals, should i conclude that all lefties are useless parasitic weasels? - (of course not)

Be carefull drawing conclusions based on choices humans may be makeing for cultural reasons and nothing more.

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09-11-2007 05:18 PM  10 years agoPost 35
RCHelicopterGuy

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Ed,

I agree with some of the things you said in so far as they go (and I'm referring to the "adopt what makes sense" argument), but where I part company is in the execution of the phrase "what makes sense".

My observations of Liberalism is that in many cases, it's about change for the sake of change itself and no other reason.

I should state here that when I refer to "liberalism", I'm referring to the more militant aspects of it - i.e., I'm referring to militant pro-abortion activists, militant gay marriage activists, and militant "Give the government control of everything" advocates. I will admit that I may be painting with a broad brush, but it seemed important to state the operational definition I'm working under.

I can't answer the divorce issue. I've not seen the statistics you reference, and even if I did, I would take statistics with a grain of salt (even ones that bolster my own opinion), because I know how easily statistics can be manipulated and presented if you don't know anything about the methodology used to collect them. I could statistically prove that neither of us is actually here right now, but it wouldn't mean anything. Your'e right that divorce is troubling, but I see that more as an endemic condition to all of Americal culture, not just political idealism.

To shift focus for a moment - Where I have my biggest problem with Liberalism is in regards to the role of Federal government. So much of modern Liberalism is founded on the tennet that "Only government can fix this problem", but I'm convinced that the only good government is a severely restricted government. I see far too many people who are willing to hand over control of so many aspects of their lives to a distant, centralized burocracy.

We can go back and forth arguing "Conservatives are bastards" and "Liberals are bastards, too", but in the end, my biggest issue is that I believe that there is too much power consolidated at a federal level. As for political ideology, I vote Conservative because of the two major political party structures in America, Conservatism is the one that affords me the best chance of controlling the rate of expansion of government.

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09-11-2007 05:53 PM  10 years agoPost 36
spork

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First I have to say that, even though I'm beginning to consider myself a liberal, you make one hell of a lot more sense than our favorite liberal spokesman on this forum. Nothing like a little reason.
I'm referring to militant pro-abortion activists
I don't think there's really any such thing as "pro-abortion". I think the two factions are "pro-life" and "pro-choice". I admit that neither label is completely accurate, but to my knowledge, no one is actually advocating abortion per-se.

With regard to big government controlling every aspect of our lives, I agree with you almost completely. There is one area where I fear government intervention may be required for success. Namely, global warming. I just don't think normal free-market forces look far enough out to protect us from ourselves in this case.

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09-11-2007 05:54 PM  10 years agoPost 37
Havoc

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Scientist tend to be liberal? Maybe if you define all non-religious people as liberal then maybe. Or if they work for the government then a party not so keen on government spending could be seen as at odds with their desires. But if a study like this was done on women vs men instead of liberals vs conservatives then Larry Summers would be fired again. But this is a study where the interpretation of the results reveals more about the politics of the interpreter or "scientist" than about liberals vs conservatives. If a politically conservative scientist where to look at this test then you would have a different conclusion. But in the liberal media any story about "liberals are superior to inflexible conservatives" will get press where as the opposite wouldn't get any media play. So if you want to be considered enlightened then this study says you must believe change is always a good thing and your an unthinking inconsiderate dolt if you don't. But if liberals are so adapt to changes then I can think of several areas of government that need changing yet a liberal won't budge. You have changing conditions in Iraq that suggest the surge is working yet they won't even listen to Petraeus because their mind is set. Their mind was set after Bush won the first election. If the liberal aryan race is so superior then I guess we can cut off the welfare, close the boarder to illegals, change to the Fair Tax, and reform the public schools. Liberals can adapt to this change. No?

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09-11-2007 05:59 PM  10 years agoPost 38
RonHill

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CON's are all Criminals and Repressed Homo's and sooner or later they will be found out and exposed
Oh look, Sealerman is out making over generalizations again....Who else is not shocked?

Oh and the blanket insults "I don't expect any of the usual CONtard's to understand this at all, but it will be funny to read their senseless responses."

Can you discuss ANY topic without name calling and insults?

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09-11-2007 06:50 PM  10 years agoPost 39
kiwidave1

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this study says you must believe change is always a good thing and your an unthinking inconsiderate dolt if you don't.
Change is not a good thing or a bad thing but it is 100% ineviatable.

The question you have to ask yourself is, are you going to go with the flow or get bulldozed by it?

David

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

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09-11-2007 06:59 PM  10 years agoPost 40
Havoc

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The question you have to ask yourself is, are you going to go with the flow or get bulldozed by it?
Is liberal ideology hinged on non sequiturs?

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