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09-10-2007 10:06 AM  10 years agoPost 1
wlfk

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I taught myself to fly my heli, and I can do basic flight maneuvers (hover all orientations, lazy-8s etc...) and I just bought a magazine with plans for an EZEfly - an electric ducted fan trainer.

I've heard of a few people who've made the switch from helis to planks without difficulty. What are the chances of being able to pick it up and fly it? Or should I really get help or a trainer first?

I won't blame anybody if I crash

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09-10-2007 10:17 AM  10 years agoPost 2
Slipknoter

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I personally think planks are easier to fly... I would still get some advice from an experienced plank flyer from your local club before you go out and try it by yourself. I don't necessarily think you would need a trainer, but thats just my opinion.

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09-10-2007 10:52 AM  10 years agoPost 3
Slipknoter

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I think small F3A patternship type planes are ideal to learn to fly planes. They are easy to fy and very smooth.

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09-10-2007 10:54 AM  10 years agoPost 4
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It looks as if it should be quite fast. I quite like the idea of adding a training wing rather than building a whole new plank. The current wing is a slab, and built-in. But I could make it into a jet biplane temporarily!

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09-10-2007 12:34 PM  10 years agoPost 5
mjsb

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I agree that is easier to fly planes than helis. Unless you are flying hard 3D, usually planes follow a forward trayectory so even if you loose orientation or get it into de sun you can recover it easely just centering the sticks.

Also planes are less exposed to mechanicall failure....just considering the amount of moving parts on each one.

I like both but try to not fly them in the same day since the brain-to-thumb adjustment take me some time.

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09-10-2007 01:14 PM  10 years agoPost 6
Slipknoter

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I like both but try to not fly them in the same day since the brain-to-thumb adjustment take me some time.
Lol, I know someone who flys helis mode 2 and planes mode 1.

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09-10-2007 01:32 PM  10 years agoPost 7
red_z06

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The toughest part is landing. Since you are already a heli pilot, general flying won't be a problem. You must learn the behavior or the plane near stall and learn to see the signs as this speed is needed for landing.

3d and high perfromance planes are basically lightened version of the same variety so they will not take hard landings well. I would recommand Hobbico Hobbistar 60 as good trainer/sport flyer. It will take pounding of a landing and survive.

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09-10-2007 02:26 PM  10 years agoPost 8
midwestpilot

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I would get a wing

Like a Zagi Tazz or the like.. they can take real abuse and are perfect for getting your feet wet with a plane. I was flying mine full speed inverted and pulled the stick instead of pushing it.. and wham... right in the dirt and full speed... picked it up.. and threw it back in the sky.. perfect trainers for heli pilots with some flight skills.

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I then moved to a standard configured plane and had great success.. I hit the runway every time

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09-10-2007 03:10 PM  10 years agoPost 9
dunbare

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I think planes are easier to, but it like someone said, landing is what you have to get used to, you just can't pull into a hover. Well unless you can fly 3D. I remember when I started planes, and the people used to kid me about being able to fly helicopters, but I would get buddy boxed for planes. I didn't like the landing part.

Also, I've heard flying ducting fan models have a different feel then straight prop models.

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09-10-2007 03:17 PM  10 years agoPost 10
Slipknoter

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Has anyone tried the Ikarus Shock flyers? they are so much fun and you can do anything to them, they are also very cheap to repair. A bit of super glue here and there and your away again.

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09-10-2007 05:12 PM  10 years agoPost 11
ifly25

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Be preparred for your friends to laugh at you.... seems like every time I fly a plank and do the first couple of loops of the day with it, you will hear the throttle go to idle while going across the top (natural habit to pull the left stick back). When this happens, the other heli pilots at the field start laughing and pointing their fingers saying "heli pilot mistake"! Funny thing is that this only seems to happen in loops, I seem to catch myself mentally when doing aileron roles! One advantage in going to planks from helis is that you'll naturally fly the rudder - which a lot of plankers don't seem to know how to use other than on the ground for taxiing and takeoff purposes. Good luck!

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09-10-2007 05:25 PM  10 years agoPost 12
joeycoates

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You might want to get some help as it is a bit different. I am currently teaching one of my friends to fly on my Sig Kadet Senior and while he is doing very well, it HAS taken some training! He is a very proficient heli pilot and he understands the general concepts of how an airplane flies along with the differences in flight, but it was not just a no problem switch. As others have said getting the whole concept of bringing the airplane in to a landing has been the most difficult part of the transition. You have to learn to set up a glide slope and get the hang of flairing before landing. He is doing much, much better then a rank beginner though and as of last week soloed!

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09-10-2007 06:03 PM  10 years agoPost 13
TRACERBOB

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Here's a good question for ya. I'm on the verge of attempting forward flight for the first time and I'm thinking perhaps learning to fly planes will help me with orientation and getting used to controlling aircraft at a distance. Is my thinking flawed? I know, I can hear the laughing and jeers already. But seriously, will it?

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09-10-2007 06:12 PM  10 years agoPost 14
rcfreak7

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It was pretty easy for me. Just familiarise yourself with the different controls.

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09-10-2007 06:23 PM  10 years agoPost 15
Paul Woodcock

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Hi

Just remember NOT to use the rudder.....well on most faster types. Just bank and yank.

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09-10-2007 06:25 PM  10 years agoPost 16
Slipknoter

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Why not use the rudder?

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09-10-2007 06:54 PM  10 years agoPost 17
nivlek

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I would suggest a fun fly model , like a Cougar 2000 or Hype 3D .
These types of model remain fully controlable at very low airspeeds and are a doddle to land . In fact , I've taught people to fly fixed wing on fun fly models because their low speed handling is much better than a lot of so called "trainers" .

At the end of the day , it gets dark .

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09-10-2007 07:05 PM  10 years agoPost 18
sharam

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Planes are much easier to fly. The only difficult part is landing, especilly in a nice cross-wind! That take finesse and a real light touch on the controls.

Just take a look at how many plank fliers bounce all over the place and veer off the runway when attempting to land.

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09-10-2007 07:13 PM  10 years agoPost 19
Chris Lupa

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The problem I (used to) have with planes is putting in "negative pitch" on top of a loop or roll with the end result of the motor shutting down! Planes are great to fly because you know that, for the most of them, crashing isn't going to be that painfull on the wallet! I've just started doing my first low prop hangs on fixed wing and I'd be lieing if I said it wasn't damn fun
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09-10-2007 07:46 PM  10 years agoPost 20
SSN Pru

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Just remember NOT to use the rudder.....well on most faster types. Just bank and yank
that is the dumbest advice ever and perhaps meant as a joke?

most plankers dont use the rudder. thats why most plank flyers fly circuits with the occassional loop and roll back and forth across the field. a lot of plankers also just yank the sticks to and fro becuase a plank is just more forgiving.

I flew planks for ten years before jumping feet first into helis. I hardly fly my fleet of planks anymore because helis are just more fun IMO.I loved to hover around the field with my YS .45 powered Morris Knife. Flat, inverted, climbing spins were fun too! Arguably one of the more fun planks Ive flown.

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