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09-12-2007 01:47 AM  10 years agoPost 61
wakeboarder2342

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After a few hours of reading i ended up with these.

http://www.ipilot.com/shop/product.aspx?pid=13555

I was just this close to getting the bose but thought for 500 bucks less i would try these and if i didnt like them i would keep them for passengers and get the bose.

really what pushed me over more then the cost was the cell phone and ipod inputs. It sucks trying to answer a phone on a plane and thought these would be a better way to go.

I talked to another pilot i know that has both the bose and the lightspeed 3g and he said the bose were nicer but not 500 bucks nicer, just a bit lighter and more comfortable on the head. He told me to go with the litespeed.

And since all i have ever used is the crappy none noise cancelling ones my instructor lets me use i wont know the difference anyway!!

I deffinetely couldnt see myself buying a headset that i had to put on a payment plan!!! What have we come to, i can see financing a car or a home but a set of headphones!!! LOL

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09-12-2007 06:28 AM  10 years agoPost 62
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I'm really happy with my Pilot PA-1771T headset. I also have the LiteSpeed Mach-1 which does not impress me much (I may try getting the custom ear molds).

I've tried the Bose-X, and frankly I was not impressed. They're no lighter than the Pilot set, less comfortable and I have yet to see a spec for their noise cancelling ability.

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09-12-2007 02:30 PM  10 years agoPost 63
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Less comfortable how.

I tried many a headset and the Bose X by far are the lightest and most comfortable I have ever tried. Zero pressure points, great feeling and sealing earcups.

There is a reason it tops all the rankings in the popular mags. The ANR is unsurpassed, the sound clarity from the mic is awesome. Lastly, once coupled to the stereo intercom in my plane, music sounds fantastic on X-country flights.

Just curious what you felt was uncomfortable about them.

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09-12-2007 04:24 PM  10 years agoPost 64
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Hey Bill,

Can you drop into SLC sometime and let me ride right seat?

Jason

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09-12-2007 07:53 PM  10 years agoPost 65
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I found the fit around the ears on the Bose-X to be much less comfortable than my Pilot headset. I wear glasses, and that might be a big factor in this, but the gel in the Pilot earcups conforms more comfortably around my glasses than the Bose foam. Weight is about the same (Pilot's are actually 0.1 oz lighter, but you wont notice that).

As for ANR performance, I have yet to see a figure published by Bose for their performance against lab measuring equipment. Without numbers to compare, terms like "advanced ANR" or "superior ANR" are just marketing.

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09-12-2007 07:56 PM  10 years agoPost 66
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damn, look at that thing... doesn't even have the tail number painted on yet, from what it looks.

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09-14-2007 07:22 PM  10 years agoPost 67
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Bill you SUCK lol the coooolest job in the world

Team Synergy

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09-15-2007 05:43 AM  10 years agoPost 68
wakeboarder2342

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do any of you know of a message board such as runryder for general aviation? i have been searching and havent had much luck on anything of any size with info on different planes ect

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09-15-2007 07:42 AM  10 years agoPost 69
trunkmunki

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ANR

I had a set of lightspeeds when I flew freight, they were big, but SO comfortable and quiet. At my current job (one of them anyway) I used the "communal" headsets in the planes but after a while I realized that is kind of gross. 3200 pilots and everybody sweatin' in the headsets, have to use a antibacterial wipe if you have them, then they break or "disappear" and a fed shows up as a little surprise and you have to tell him that you don't have a working set for him. Not good.

I looked at the Bose X, my wife has them and loves them, but the $1,000 is a little hard to choke down. I wanted something durable, and also the Bose don't have good passive. Battery dies (no, they don't put a power panel in the 270 airplane fleet) and you have almost nothing. I ended up geting DC ENCs. About half the price of Bose, not quite as comfy but work great even if you don't turn them on. And they are nearly bullet proof. And DC has FANTASTIC customer service. I have had headsets replaced after sending a truly abused set in for refurbishment WAY out of warranty. 10 days after dropping at UPS and I get a brand NEW set. That is service.

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09-21-2007 03:14 PM  10 years agoPost 70
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After much deliberation and talking with my accountant he told me i am far better off to buy a plane due to the very large amounts in taxes we pay every year and the ability to depreciate the entire amount up to 112,000 in one year.

So for learning i decided to get a fixed gear 182, i was going to go with a 172 but decided it was a little small and slow. I think i have decided on this air plane.

any advise is appreciated since this is my first full scale purchase im a little new at it!!

http://www.controller.com/listings/...99B775FB720ADBC

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09-21-2007 05:31 PM  10 years agoPost 71
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The engine will be more than likely due for an overhaul in 1200 hours. It looks pretty, but take a good A&P with you to look it completely over.

The 430 is nice, we are looking to put one in our bird. The Nav/Com below is a bit older but probably OK. Looks like you have an ADF in there which is somewhat helpful, but the 430 will be all you will use more than likely so you could pull the ADF out and save a few pounds.

The Transponder is ancient, but they work.

New paint is nice, but it can hide things...back to the good A&P comment.

If you are in the market for a 182, I have a friend at U42 that has one comparably equipt. Has a nice 3 blade prop, Good interior, and a nice patriotic paint scheme.

I have flown it. It would give you a good idea of what you are looking at without having to go across the country to see.

Let me know and I can see if he can give you a look. He is really busy though flying for Skywest now.

EDIT!!!!!!!

This one has been crashed!

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp...X98LA107&akey=1

See what I mean about nice paint!!

It may have been repaired well, so it is not a complete loss. Just something to consider. My plane was ground looped once and repaired nearly 30 years ago and it is a great plane.

It sounds like the engine has not been overhauled since the incident either. That would be a big red flag. Would be one of the first questions I would ask. Unfortunately, this owner may not have a clue as he may have aquired the plane from the recovery company and not the owner at the time of the incident.

My friends has no damage history.

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09-21-2007 09:23 PM  10 years agoPost 72
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Ya the guy told me about the crash in the first email i sent him.

here is what he said

Dear Jim,
Everything in the airplane is working 100% like it is suppose to work .The engine run real strong and the airplane is so beautiful.There is no problems with the annual and all the AD's up to date.I am selling the airplane because I need the money and I do have four other airplanes.Sure I do have a friend that he will be glad to fly the airplane to Utah but I have to get paid all my money first.The airplane have a previous damage history which cause due to a hard landing and the damage was to the tunnel behind the firewall.The Good news is there was no prop strike and all the repair was done with Cessna new parts and the 337 was filed with the FAA.If you need more information please feel free to call me at any time

Why do you mention an overhaul at 1200? i thought most of these were at least good to 1500 and usually to 2000?

You mention your friend has a 182 he is looking to sell? or just a 182 i can have a look at?

What does your friend want for his? give me a call if you dont mind 435-691-4002

thanks

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09-21-2007 10:01 PM  10 years agoPost 73
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1200 until the overhaul is needed is what I meant. $20K plus for that.

He is selling. I am not sure what he wants, but I will call him soon and find out.

Jason

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09-21-2007 10:03 PM  10 years agoPost 74
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ya give him a call and let me know. I think im gonna pass on the otherone i mentioned, after talking ot th eguy on the phone, i guess it was crashed again last november and thats why the new paint job, he claims to not even know about the crash you mentioned in 1998!

sounds fishy to me!!

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09-21-2007 10:39 PM  10 years agoPost 75
SilverEagle2

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Well that is the beauty of public information. Do a google search on the N number of your interested plane and look for any results with NTSB in them.

Since all incidents are listed eventually on public record, there is a good chance the info is on the web.

His November incident will show up eventually.

Since it is not required to disclose incidents, most owners will not. It is not in thier best interest to do so.

These also come up in title searches that you can have done as well, but those cost some good money.

I'll let you know on the other one.

Jason

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09-21-2007 10:44 PM  10 years agoPost 76
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If you're brand new to flying, and are just starting out as a student, you really should meet with someone who is familiar with the process of buying a plane. You can screw yourself very very easily, and turn what should be a great time of your life into a nightmare. There is a huge amount of stuff that goes into buying a plane.

Looking at some classified ads online and just going by how the instrument panel looks, the paint, and if it flies well, is a bad idea. You should join the AOPA. They have a ton of resources for anything a pilot can need, especially buying a plane. They also have a great forum where you'll find very very good information from others about purchasing an airplane.

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09-21-2007 10:52 PM  10 years agoPost 77
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Since I just went through it and I live just up the street, I suppose that he is doing just that. I understand how daunting it can be having just recently gone through the process.

Feel free to ask any questions, but Evo is right... most of the info I learned was from AOPA's member section.

Jason

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09-21-2007 11:05 PM  10 years agoPost 78
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Since I just went through it and I live just up the street, I suppose that he is doing just that. I understand how daunting it can be having just recently gone through the process.
I didn't notice you two live so close together.

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09-21-2007 11:08 PM  10 years agoPost 79
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thanks for the tips, i have joined AOPA and have done some very extensive reading, probably 20-30 hours just researching different planes to buy and the process.

it would be great to find something somewhat local and buy from someone i know and trust but im not sure that is an option unless silvereagle can hook me upw ith something!

in th emean time ill keep looking and learning!

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09-21-2007 11:10 PM  10 years agoPost 80
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AOPA is great. Have you tried using their forum too? They have people on there that own everything and can give you really good tips on whatever type of plane you're looking at. I didn't even realize they had a forum like this one until about 2 years after I became a member.

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