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09-12-2007 03:25 AM  10 years agoPost 21
AirmanBob

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I flew my MX400 Pro today with the FMA
copilot installed.

You gotta see it to believe it. Its even
better than I had hoped for. Very solid
steady hovers.

I had to quit early because of a broken
pitch link on the tail rotor. Got one
ordered.

But, I flew it enough to know its well
worth having.

Will post more when its fixed.

AB

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09-12-2007 02:05 PM  10 years agoPost 22
mjsb

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Laredo, TX

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You gotta see it to believe it. Its even
better than I had hoped for. Very solid
steady hovers.
That's great!!

Where did you place the copilot, can you post post any pics?

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09-13-2007 09:52 PM  10 years agoPost 23
bbeverlie

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Hudson,New​Hampshire.USA

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Yes please post pics! Would like to see this set up in a t-rex
450 as well if anyone has pic's please post, Thanks

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09-13-2007 10:13 PM  10 years agoPost 24
AirmanBob

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Here's how I mounted the copilot.

I might try to find a better spot
but there's not much to pick from.

Below it is the gyro mounted upside
down. The reciever is in front of
the gyro.

Bob

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09-14-2007 12:55 PM  10 years agoPost 25
mjsb

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Thanks AirmanBob!

Wow, it really seems that you had to do some cable-management there.

However....I prefer to manage cables than to constantly change blades, tailbooms, shatfts, etc.

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09-25-2007 03:25 AM  10 years agoPost 26
kiszczak

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phoenix,arizona

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are the co-pilots hard to program?????

Ive got one comming for my trex 450 are they hard to program?

But Babe I brought it home from the meeting!!!

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09-26-2007 04:20 AM  10 years agoPost 27
AirmanBob

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Naw...they are easy to setup. The manual
really does a great job of explaining it
all. You'll see..

Bob

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09-26-2007 08:54 AM  10 years agoPost 28
kiszczak

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phoenix,arizona

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I love my co -Pilot now

I have been trying to fly, even when the crickets heli came out, I like to fly the helis It just makes more since to get a co-pilot than go throught the misery of a crached helicopter that took so long to build keep your heli get a co-pilot

But Babe I brought it home from the meeting!!!

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10-17-2007 06:49 AM  10 years agoPost 29
kiszczak

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help im haveing difficullty getting my fs8 to​work

I installed my fs8 in my trex 450 ,I connected the 1 to alerons 2 elevator 3 throtle 4 rudder 5 gyro gain 6 alerons 2 I notice that 7 and 8 are bear I am also having problems turning it on and off I have a futaba t8uhp can any one help me or tell me what im doing wrong

But Babe I brought it home from the meeting!!!

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11-20-2007 04:15 AM  10 years agoPost 30
Blade_Master1

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Canada

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IMO
CO-Pilot = Crap
CP4D not compatible with digital servos
FS8 not compatible with SPEKTRUM
You don't have to believe me just e-mail them
Howard fessed up after the CP4D planted my Heli (thanks FMA .!..)

IF you realy need one get a Heli-command 3A or 3D.
or better yet go slow and learn to fly like real men do.

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12-04-2007 08:13 PM  9 years agoPost 31
cantflyatall

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hurricane WV USA

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I just got into this about amonth or so ago and have nerve heard of this before. I guess I done it old school, I bought a cheap 3D heli and a bunch of parts about enough to rebuild heli a few times which cost about 100 dollars still have most of them and can hover and do some box formations. But I just bought a x-cell razor 600e and not to crazy about crashing it,wont get a chance to till christmas but its more fun I think just doing it on your own. Buy a cheap one and leter fly

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12-05-2007 12:20 AM  9 years agoPost 32
Blade_Master1

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Canada

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cantflyatall
don't be afraid just be carefull and take your time.
if buy a very expensive heli you might be too scared and will take forever to learn.
learn your orientations first, most people take up to 3 years before they can 3D, unless you have alot of spare time and a flight sim

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12-05-2007 10:08 AM  9 years agoPost 33
BrunoBL

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Pomerode, SC, Brazil​ -26.71, -49.17

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Forget the copilot

Learn to fly the heli. Period.

If in the future you want to try it out of curiosity or for photography work... fine, but don't use a crutch on your learning phase.

Learn the real thing from day one (fly the sim too of course) and be a better pilot, sooner.

My 2c.


...Bruno.
Spectra G on Avgas 100LL, Jewel generator
T-Rex450SE V2
DX7

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12-06-2007 12:48 AM  9 years agoPost 34
Way2slow

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Jeffersonville Ga

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Doesn't make since to not know how to fly and then put a contraption in to fly it for you. I've spent all this money and time to "learn" to fly, not so I can just watch it fly.

My view on a "cheap" heli. They are only cheap to buy them, not to fix them. The cheaper the heli, it seems the more expensive the parts. I have three Heli-Max's, MX400 Pro, MX450XS and Kinetic 50 nitro and I've learned the hard way why they were so much cheaper. The carbon fiber tail boom that came on the 450, $22 for a replacement, T-Rex 450 can be made to fit for half the price or you can get two aluminum T-Rex booms for $7.50. I buy as many Align parts as I can get to fit or make fit. Not only that, the dam things fall apart faster than you can put them together. I've had one crash that was my fault and I've had five crashes that were caused by parts coming loose on the factory assembled pieces. It's a lot of fun when you are in you back yard, doing your second flight with a Kinetic 50 nitro and a screw holding one of the ball joints in the swash plate comes out and the next thing you know that thing's jumped 30 feet in the air and now making a nose dive straight at you. I fly mine over the concrete drive way, that way I can pick up the parts that fell off and put them back on. I am also serious about that statement, there's not many times I don't find screws or parts in the drive after flying.

I am now building my T-Rex 450SE and my wife bought my T-Rex 600Pro (the whole ball of wax to make it ready to fly) for my christmas. I'm done with the "cheap" stuff. I'm just waiting to see what that $2,000 christmas present is going to cost me for her's now. Know her, about double that.

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12-06-2007 04:10 AM  9 years agoPost 35
Blade_Master1

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Canada

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Way2slow
Use blue loctite every where without being sloppy
theres no reason for parts falling off take your time build once do it right.
I have a trex 450sa, Century Raven 30 (modified Hawk pro) and the almighty Blade CX1
Might I suggest the CX2 for learning then move up to a Single rotor fixed pitch then an electric collective pitch before going to Nitro.
follow these steps to save yourself grief and money in the end.
Its a journey

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12-06-2007 05:01 AM  9 years agoPost 36
Way2slow

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Jeffersonville Ga

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My problem is not with my assembly, it's the factory assemblies. I'm just now finishing up a total disassembly of the MX450 (and I mean total, every screw the factory installed) and reassembly. As for Loctite, I use a much better loctite than the blue. It is blended by Permatex (Loctite)to my companies specs and has a much better holding power than the blue but can still be disassembled without breaking the screws off, just have to make sure you use good tools that fit properly, none of those "Made In China". Next I will do the Kinetic 50. It's just a dam shame to have to spend so many hours tearing one down completely and reassembling it the right way. By cheap s***, get cheap s***.

I went ahead and made a few upgrades to it while I was doing this, the whole rotor assy and tail assy in now blue, instead of their red.

I'm putting the red assy on the 400 and getting rid of all that platic junk, gonna convert it to ccpm, put a 450 boom and belt on it, install a Scorpion HK 2221-8 motor with their 45 amp ESC, order a Micro-Heli swash and give it to my granddaughter. Got the piece of junk, may as well make piece of a helicopter out of it.

Needless to say, I'm not real happy with Heli-Max/Century products.

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12-06-2007 05:32 AM  9 years agoPost 37
Blade_Master1

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Canada

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I hate to say it
But I have been told many times not to trust factory assembled items
Not even RTF
just don't over do it with the loctite
You will have to disassemble at some point.

Take your time it is not a race, it all about having fun

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