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08-11-2007 03:41 AM  10 years agoPost 1
darkfa8

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I have an Avant FX with a YS61 that has been sitting waiting for it's Programmable Head that has been out for a check-up for 3 months. Needless to say, I'm just slightly po'ed about it all collecting dust.

Since it's been a dust magnet, I've been contemplating ditching nitro all together to save the costs, save myself from anal-retentive frustration of having to clean everything all the time and try and save some money overall.

Electrics have been tempting. I have a Trex450 that I've flown more often then nearly any other nitro heli I've ever had. However, as we all know, a larger e-heli's batteries are quite an investment, and in some cases cost nearly as much as the airframe and having your "fuel source" be like a gold brick in the air that could get damaged just doesn't sit well with me until they become much cheaper.

So, gas, it's cheaper and not extinct yet. So I've been thinking of ditching the entire nitro Avant stuff and going gasser. I'm hoping to find something on-par quality-wise to the Avant. Easy to work on, low parts count, excellent company customer service. Money, well, cheaper is better, but I realize that you get what you pay for and I don't want junk.

btw, I'm not a 3D freak, so it doesn't have to me a cruise missle right out of the box.

So, how do the latest gassers stack up to eachother? Any input is appreciated

- Dan Goldstein
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08-11-2007 06:57 PM  10 years agoPost 2
gorn

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Hi Dan
Welcome to the old mans brigade lol. This is how I see gas peceived by the nitro comunity for the most part.
I cant specualte on whats best for you, but I can tell you, that as far as quality goes, Ive yet to see anything better than a Realheli Maxum. And thats for any heli period.
I have yet to clap eyes on a Avant yet, but I have been admiring them, and I dont accept that great quality and cheap are in the same sentence.
Most people on here will give opinions on what they have, as thats what they have been exposed to, and naturally they love their heli.
If you want a cheaper purchase price and bang for your buck, IMO the Predator is a good option.
Next up is the Min Air birds, probably the lightest of the gassers out there, lighter than mine for sure lol.
Very good quality, very aerobatic as well. But it has trouble dealing with the 26cc motors for various reasons. Power to weight?? debatable, 23cc versus a possible Hanson tuned 3d Max 26cc in aheavier bird. In my mind, kind of levels the playing field to some extent.
Vario is good for scale, but empty your wallet for a plastic heli.
Not my idea of good value. Having said that, Im not knocking them, its just my pesonal opinion as to how I feel about value for money, regardless of money spent.
Then you have ASI, almost the same design as Vario, but all metal. Pick your anodized colour and order away. Nickel plate? Yep if you like. They dont sell airframes for you to build.
My understanding is that they build up each heli, with either your choice of electronics from them, or you send them your gear.
They build it AND fly/test it. They have a bumpy name in the past, but a lot of happy recent customers. So I hope they have that sorted out now. Looking at photo's of them, Im very impressed.
I have yet to see any video of them doing anything but FF and maybe a loop.
Realheli Maxum..........here we go, Im biased lol.
Best quality I have seen to date in person. Every time I look at it closely I see another well thought out design feature.
Motor is out in about 10 mins if you like. Try that with another brand.
Comes pre-built in takedown form. Everything is red locktighted from the factory.
All bearings and fixtures are stainless steel.
Helical main gears for more surface area and less noise.
Carbon boom is stock.
Glass canopy is stock, and can be pre-ordered with the kit pre-painted with painted fins.
They make their own muffler, very nice and half the cost of most others.
Wicked customer service, even though you have to order from the Phillipines (point of manufacture)
Anyways, enough of my plug.
On to Bergen.
I contunually hear of excellent customer service from them. This is worth its weight in gold when you dont know what to do next.
Either stock 710 blades or the EB with 800's.
G10 chassis for vibration absorbtion and less RF noise (Maxum do the same material for these reasons)
Still a good price if you order with the motor.
Good pool of information from other forum members, both here and elsewhere
IMO needs and update. Still has MPM, everyone else has CCPM.
Some love MPM, and other swear by CCPM. I prefer the latter.
Again, personal opinion.
Good luck with deciding which machine best suits you

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08-12-2007 10:01 AM  10 years agoPost 3
Shiro Muji

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well said Gorn!!! Me too is a happy customer of RealHelis' Maxum. I already own two but I am building another one for a new Project Bigger engine perhaps (30.5cc Modified Engine)Mine has all carbon frame, reason personal preference and for aesthetic purposes. lol. as gorn said, their customer service is awesome!!!. Ordering part or even the whole kit is a breeze!!! they have already their on-line shop activated and accepting all major credit cards. anywayz good luck for whatever choices you choose, but i will assure you Dan that you will not go wrong with Maxum

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08-12-2007 10:57 AM  10 years agoPost 4
gorn

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Show us pics of that carbon bad boy!!!!
What did the frames cost?

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08-13-2007 03:12 AM  10 years agoPost 5
Shiro Muji

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Sure my friend. Later, my digital cam is not with me. as to the cost of the frame it cost me around $622.22 but this include the fins!!!!

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08-13-2007 08:54 AM  10 years agoPost 6
Shiro Muji

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as promised here are the pictures of my new project. together is my Maxum Nitro Version convertible to gas and vice versa!!! take note also of the gen set

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08-13-2007 03:12 PM  10 years agoPost 7
gorn

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Far out, your a busy man!! lol
I dont think I can afford those frames anytime soon lol, looks nice though.
Can you weigh it with the gas motor in it? Just interested to see how much weight is saved.
The generator looks really neat, how much did it cost?
Next we'll see you with an E powered Maxum lol, or turbine perhaps? heheh

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08-13-2007 03:17 PM  10 years agoPost 8
Shiro Muji

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just ask realheli of the price of the gen set. it is just the prototype but the final products look the same. anywayz not interested with electric not my type turbine is very expensive and not so practical. as to the save weight of the carbon frame . . . it is very minimal and not noticiable with the Hanson 3D Max Engine in it. i put carbon frame for personal preference only and the looks

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08-13-2007 03:24 PM  10 years agoPost 9
gorn

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Well she sure looks good in her new clothes
Perhaps I will just get the fins

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08-14-2007 04:03 AM  10 years agoPost 10
Shiro Muji

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There are actually 2 carbon version Maxums in the pics. The one which has no engine is my other project where I'll put a new 30.5 cc gas engine. The other one is a nitro based configuration powered by an OS.91szH-pumped and weighs only around 4kg

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08-14-2007 04:11 AM  10 years agoPost 11
gorn

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4kg!!
I wish my gasser weighed that
Is Realheli making a nitro version or did you mod it to suit?

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08-14-2007 04:26 AM  10 years agoPost 12
FloridaHeli

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darkfa8,

Gorn pretty much said it. I would like to add that the MA machines are very well designed and parts are readily available from their manufacturing facility in Florida.
I have a Predator 231 gasser that I love. I have found parts a bit difficult to get but the local Sales rep has been most helpful. He put me in touch with other Predator owners who had the parts I needed. The sent the parts BEFORE receiving payment and one guy sent me a part and just wants a replacement when I get it. The Heli community is a great bunch of people.
Whichever Gasser you get you will love the convenience of no starter or glow igniter.
Hope this helps.

This hobby is WAY too expensive!!

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08-14-2007 04:36 AM  10 years agoPost 13
Shiro Muji

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Gorn: the maxum you have can fit a glow engine in it. the manufacturer designed the heli that way. only a little conversion kit needed like the engine mount and gear ratio. that's it. but of course you have to buy your own muffler and engine.

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08-14-2007 02:33 PM  10 years agoPost 14
gorn

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Hey Shiro
Far out!! The things they do hey!
And I thought I had figured out most of the design features already
I will have to keep that in mind if I ever decide to have a dabble at nitro power.
As always Shiro, informative

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08-14-2007 02:48 PM  10 years agoPost 15
34ford

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Also consider a Vario Benzine for scale.
http://www.runryder.com/helicopter/t365294p1/

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08-14-2007 02:52 PM  10 years agoPost 16
gorn

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Dennis!!
What happened man! Why are you getting out of the gasser before youve even flown it?
Thats a real shame buddy, you would have loved it.

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08-14-2007 03:51 PM  10 years agoPost 17
34ford

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The biggest reason.

Im by myself out here.

This is way to nice of a heli to be trying to setup without having gasser/nitro assistance or experence..
And the ONE big thing that I would really hate would be destroying $250 worth of stock blades!

So I believe its worth more intact, "new".

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08-14-2007 04:44 PM  10 years agoPost 18
gorn

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Oh man, Im sorry to hear that.
I have had no assistance except for the forum, and mine is going like a champ.
I think you should give it a crack
$250 blades?? Are they 800mm?
If you went V Blade it would be cheaper.

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08-14-2007 05:27 PM  10 years agoPost 19
34ford

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Yep. 800mm. I was wrong, their actually $221.

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08-14-2007 05:44 PM  10 years agoPost 20
gorn

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I would seriously check out V Blades as , dare I say it, a cheaper alternative. Century also do 800mm carbons.

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