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08-10-2007 10:51 PM  10 years agoPost 1
synodontis

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this is probably a question for Jeff Green:

Why has Hirobo stopped doing titanium carbon? The web page for the Eagle 3 WC SWM says that's titanium carbon is no longer available? If so what is the reason for this?

I don't buy this titanium carbon not available business since companies like XeroG are still using them, and probably Align as well for that matter.

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08-10-2007 11:04 PM  10 years agoPost 2
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it's not real carbon. Only black is real carbon.

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08-11-2007 12:18 AM  10 years agoPost 3
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I am aware of this, but it still does not answer the question.

The titanium carbon has a finer weave, does this mean it's stronger? Hirobo claim no difference.

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08-12-2007 03:10 AM  10 years agoPost 4
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synodontis,

You can pigment a lay-up if you want to. I am talking about pigmenting the epoxy. This requires an extra step in production, and quality control over the resulting color.

It is possible that getting the color uniform results in more weight.

Helis are Man's Defiance of the Laws of Nature - OCHC

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08-12-2007 12:35 PM  10 years agoPost 5
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I know nothing about how carbon is produced. That was not the original question.

Also pigmenting it up does not effect the weave and the titanium carbon has a finer weave. Whether this is stronger or not I do not know.

The newer carbon sheets used by Synergy upgrades (Quick UK in particular) have G10 in the middle to add flex. The Blitz Avro frames are rumoured to use this kind of carbon also.

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08-14-2007 11:39 AM  10 years agoPost 6
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damn, spoke too soon

info here

Mind you, if more airliners start going down the carbon fibre route we might all have to do with G10!!

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08-14-2007 04:39 PM  10 years agoPost 7
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Get used to it because carbon prices will go up. the new boeing 787 and the airbus A380 are going to be thirsty on carbon supplies.
Maybe that will force us into G10 and the arguement of what is better will become a mute point.

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08-14-2007 04:40 PM  10 years agoPost 8
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damn that wont be good for our blades as well

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08-14-2007 04:50 PM  10 years agoPost 9
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call me a cynic if you will, but why the hell do we need bigger passenger planes? The only reason I can think of is so travel becomes more cost effective for people, hence they will travel more, hence more money for the airlines, hence more orders for bigger planes etc. . . . I don't see any environmental issue being touted for bigger planes at all, it's all BS if you ask me.

We might have to make do with off cuts from other industries for our heli frames then.

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